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Yes, I am working on a carefully worded post about what it is that's making me not want to watch Miracle Day. In the meantime, though, may I express one quick angry thought and it's this:

SERIOUSLY, IF I SEE ONE MORE LINK TO BARROWMAN GLEEFULLY TELLING EVERYONE ABOUT HIS NAKED ASS AND HIS NON-GRATUITOUS GAY SEX SCENES AND WHY WE SHOULD ALL BE WATCHING THAT SHIZ, after all that BULLSHIT go watch Supernatural, you're fetishising gay men PREACHING from RTD two years ago, I swear I will SMACK A BITCH. YOUR HYPOCRISY IS SHOWING, HONEY. PUT IT THE FUCK AWAY.

I should maybe stop reading the daily, but dammit I STILL LOVE TORCHWOOD (old skool) and I'm not about to drop out of the proceedings just because I don't want to watch Barrowman's naked arse humping.

Maybe they should start making two dailies? Really draw the line and split into factions? I don't know. Don't mind me.

That Colin guy from Merlin is one of the fugliest people on the telly at the mo. That's not a subjective opinion on my part, that's like scientific fact or something. He's one of the two reasons I don't watch Merlin, the other one being that it's about fucking wizards. See also: more fucking wizards (Harry Potter), fucking trolls (Lord of the Rings) and fucking blue fairy people (Avatar). Do not be telling me I should be watching any of this shit, I cannot take it seriously.

I voted Neil Patrick Harris in the Big Gay Battle on After Elton. John Barrowman is just too gay to be allowed to win these sorts of things. I'm joking, of course (not about voting, I did vote NPH), there's no such thing as TOO GAY, but if there were, I'm pretty sure JB would qualify. But no, I purposefully voted against JB. For reasons I explained like a year and a half ago, I don't think he's the greatest candidate for big gay role model. Neither is NPH, probably (Man, he only came out like 3 years ago, dudes, really? Weird, I thought it was longer ago.), but there you go.

I went to post a comment somewhere and found I'd been banned from someone's journal. I've never been banned from anyone's journal before, and I quite like the person in question and don't recall ever having had a disagreement with them of any kind. Random defriendings by people who I thought were my actual friends I can deal with, but banning? Wow. Ouch.

Speaking of which, this is kind of where I am at the moment:

There's not a lot of joy for me left in Whovian fandom. I'll probably post something later about how much I hated Waters of Mars. I have no desire to watch anything RTD has produced or DT stars in, and I am only just managing to hold on to a scrap of enthusiasm for when Moffat and Smith come in. I hate Russell, I hate everything he's ever written, I think he's awful. His insistence on bringing all this emotional manpain and trauma into these shows that used to just be a joyful experience for me and, in the case of Who, for my kids, has ruined my fannish experience. I want the last three years of my life back, I wish I'd never started watching Torchwood, I wish I'd stopped watching Who. I don't need television that pisses me off and makes me sad, that's not what I watch television for. Fuck you Russell, I hope LA chews you up and spits you out and fucks you in the ass with a pointy stick.

Ianto did make me happy for quite a few years, which is why I'm working on a last epic picspam of my favourite teaboy doing shit. I hope to have it done in a week or two.

I'm also working on something of a personal project celebrating Torchwood Series One and Two, which I hope to tell you more about in the coming weeks. Or maybe I'll just abandon it.

I was hoping to do a Christmas push on the Ianto Jones Wants a Pony campaign, but the Lluest Horse and Pony Trust's continued inability to update me is starting to annoy me a bit, so maybe I'll leave it. After Christmas, I'm done promoting it because I think I've done enough. I'll leave it up, of course.

Any takers for ninja_teaboy may give me shout here or in PM. I'm putting it up for adoption per January 1st. If there's no-one interested, I'll close it down.

Oh, in case you were wondering, no. If there is a new series of Torchwood, I won't be watching it, as I don't really like Gwen, or Jack. I liked Tosh and Ianto and I quite enjoyed disliking Owen. I liked Ianto, I liked Tosh, I liked the Hub, the embossed SUV, the pteranodon, the old ladies, the poodles, the victorian lesbianism, the cyberbikinis and that stupid fucking invisible lift. In fact, I loved all those things. Apparently I loved those things far too much. Those things are all gone, so there's nothing for me to come back to. Not that there will be a new series.

It's been really fun, people, but if you've friended me for Torchwood content, please, feel free to defriend me in the coming weeks, I won't be offended. I am completely spent. Done. Thanks, Rusty.

Apart from various and assorted personal happenings keeping me off the internets, there's other stuff, too. I'm not feeling the love no more. This, I'm sure, will pass eventually. (And when I say "not feeling the love," what I actually mean is it seems that people are spitting bile at each other again. Maybe I'm having perceptual difficulties.)

I've seen a few people bidding their goodbyes to Torchwood fandom recently and it saddens me in a way, but it does feel like to many people there's a chapter that's ended for good. That's not down to Ianto, specifically, I think there's a general feeling going around that this show died in July and it's not coming back. Incidentally, I really think we'd have heard about renewal by now, dudes. I am somewhat relieved that we haven't, I have no interest in a continuation of Torchwood, I really do think the story's been told and I wouldn't have watched it. As things have settled down I've come to realise that that's not simply because I find Barrowman and Myles to be two of the most tedious people on television, but also simply because I really don't think there's any story left to tell. I don't think I'm the only one.

Anyway, I think I might perform a friendslist cull in a week or two. I've connected with a lot of people through TW, but some our interests seem to be diversifying, guys. Big time. Having said that, I find a lot of your interests interesting. Unless they involve that show with the Wincest, I just don't care about that show in any way, shape or form. I'll be doing some picspams soon (LOL, I say that every week, and it never happens! That's because I'm lazy and easily distracted by life.) and in the meantime I'll just stick with The Big Bang Theory and Glee, two shows that will never fuck me in the arse in quite the way that Torchwood managed to. They make me feel pleasant and safe, and that makes a refreshing change.

I just saw Barrowman playing a banjo and shouting about pigs on CBBC. I have no desire to work out what the hell I was watching, but it was unpleasant.

I saw this animated John Barrowman mood theme floating around. I love how he's in exactly the same mood in all of the pictures.

Yeah, alright, I'll go back to my sickbed now.

... hair.

Yeah, okay, so I have a bit of an irrational dislike of Barrowman, just generally. I know that makes me unpopular in certain circles. But you have to admit that's bad hair. Why do they always do one promo pic in each series of promos that has his hair sticking up like that? It's weird.

As someone pointed out to me, Google cache is your friend.

This is ALLEGEDLY Scott Gill in his speedos. (I have no way of confirming this, as it's a photo I stole from google's cache of an unnamed fan's Livejournal. It could be John Barrowman and a completely different man in speedos. It could be NOT John Barrowman and a completely different man in speedos. Hell, maybe they're not even speedos. I didn't take the picture, I have no way of knowing.)

I guess, you know, if you like that sort of thing... I'm not really a speedo gal myself. This, allegedly, is the photo John Barrowman didn't want posted to the internet because OMG PANTS! I put it to John Barrowman that if you, or your partner, don't want photos of yourselves in your pants posted on the internet, it would probably be wise to not show yourself in your pants to a group of paying and photographing punters. You're both grown men, so fucking act like grown men already. The original poster of this picture took down the picture at John's request, so good for her, she is blameless in all of this. I, on the other hand, don't give a flying fuck what John Barrowman requests of anyone, as he is not, in any way shape or form, "my liege." So there you go. I'm posting this picture of these two men who may or may not be John Barrowman and Scott Gill. In what may or may not be speedos.

For the record, hearsay would have it that the big super special secrets John allegedly didn't want anyone to know about are that he was allegedly involved in a car accident at the weekend. Why on earth he was allegedly driving a car with torn ligaments and allegedly high on pain medication is anyone's guess, and perhaps this is why he allegedly didn't want people to know about it. Again, if you don't want people to know about it, I'd suggest NOT TELLING A GREAT BIG BUNCH OF PAYING PUNTERS. Allegedly. The other secret is that he's allegedly trying to flog one of his allegedly godawful entertainment/variety shows to a US network, so good luck with that, dude.

THAT'S IT. THERE ARE NO OTHER SUPER SPECIAL SEKRITS FROM TORCHSONG, no matter what any of John's super special sekrit friends may be hinting at. Fascinating, weren't they? Allegedly.

EDITED TO ADD THE WORD ALLEGEDLY A LOT. And some wordy disclaimers.

EDITED AGAIN TO ADD: YAY! "SEE TENCRUSH ACT LIKE SHE DIDN'T SWIPE THE INFO FROM FANDOMWANK AND WHO_ANON, BECAUSE SHE IS SPESHUL SNOWFLAKES." Well, actually, all of this came from fandom_wank, as I said in my first post about the Torchsong fail, that's how I ended up at the meme in the first place. And yes, the hearsay super special sekrit information was copied from the meme. I'm not pretending it wasn't, I just didn't mention it. If it had been posted by a logged in LJ-er, I'd have credited and linked, but it wasn't, so I didn't. That's what happens when you post anon.

...some comments on my earlier post about John Barrowman. Nobody is comparing John Barrowman to a pedophile, or what John Barrowman does to sexual abuse. Not even the original comment on

who_anon that I was referring to did that. It's completely besides the point. The point is that his tone (and yes, that tone may well be being misreported, I agree, but this isn't the first time that tone has been used in accounts of what JB has said, so it's becoming a theme) and phrasing of "We've shared something special and personal and I don't want it getting out because I might get into trouble so if you truly love me you won't tell anyone" rubs people up the wrong way because it is a psychologically manipulative statement. And sure, one could argue that surely Barrowman doesn't have that kind of hold over his fans that they would take this sort of emotional blackmail seriously, but, exactly as happened with the Hub convention, convention reports and comments by fans that attended would beg to differ. I have yet to see a report that states "Hey, John asked us not to share these photos because he's scared his grannie will see them, but you know what? FUCK HIM, he did it in public, and if he doesn't want his grannie to see his arse, he shouldn't get it out IN FUCKING PUBLIC. Here's the pics." That just doesn't happen.

I don't really know WHY that just doesn't happen, I know that's what I would do if I had been there and had pictures, but then again, I wasn't there, because while I may not have much better things to do with my time, I most certainly have better things to do with my money than go to a tacky looking, badly organised and hugely expensive JB (oh and Torchwood too!) convention. And perhaps that is exactly why that doesn't happen, because I'm not the sort of person who goes to that sort of thing. And perhaps a lot of the people who DO go to that sort of thing and are really willing to spend that kind of CRAZY MONEY and EFFORT to SEE SOMEONE UP CLOSE are just slightly more susceptible to the fake intimacy that JB seems to excel at creating between himself and his fans.

Or maybe, like I said, JB really does have a histrionic personality disorder, and really believes that the relationship between himself and his fans is more personal and intimate than it actually is.

Look at me, I'm backpedaling! But really ineffectively! I've gone from comparing him to a pedophile to saying he's mentally disturbed. I'll go lie down now, I've forgotten where I was going with this.

Yeah, so I dip my toes back into fandom and find this whole Torchsong hilarity on Fandom Wank. There are things I could say about this particular wank but sisterelwood has already been succinct enough to sum up my thoughts in the comments:

If you don't want something talked about then don't fucking tell a convention full of strangers. It doesn't take a genius to figure that one out. Additionally, anyone who dropped that much money on an event and didn't bother to understand the refund policy or make sure they were handing over money to a reputable group deserves to have their money stolen.

This whole thing isn't so much funny as a case study in fucking stupidity.

LOL. Comment of truth FTW!

Okay, actually I do have one or two things to say on the subject of Torchsong and -WAHEY!- John Barrowman. When do I ever not?

There's a few comments at the anonmeme about John's behaviour, but I try not to read the anonmeme too much, if indeed at all, so I only skimmed over them. There was, however, a nice comparison somewhere between John Barrowman and a pedophile. Which was loltastic and very much to the point, the point being that this attitude of JB's of "I do special personal stuff for you convention guys! Stuff I don't do for ANYONE ELSE! Please keep it to yourself or they'll make me not do that special stuff anymore, so if you love me and want to be my special friend, you won't tell anyone about the special stuff we do together!" IS FUCKING CREEPY AND MANIPULATIVE AS FUCK. Seriously. CREEPY. In fact, I'm starting to think JB has some sort of narcissistic or histrionic personality disorder. I hope I didn't type that out loud just then.

Really, though. Creepy. Creepy and weird, but mostly creepy.

If John really wants to drag his non-celebrity other half and said other half's arse into the public eye, why doesn't he just do something REALLY tasteful like Celebrity Wife Swap or All Star Mr. and Mrs. or something like that? Maybe, now that the André's are splitting up, they could do a reality thing to replace Jordan and Peter Stateside on ITV 2. Or is it 3? (I mean, it's not like there's a Torchwood Season 4. We all know this.) It's obviously the sort of thing he's aiming for. TACKY!

GDL uses Viagra? What drug habit is he compensating for, dudes? Answers on a postcard. (I'm guessing speed? Maybe coke?)

Crazy times, people. Crazy times.

The world of kink is rather like fandom in very many ways and is full of People Being Right About Stuff whilst Other People Are Wrong. For reasons I shall not be getting into I ventured to some strange sekrit places on the interwebs but funnily enough ended up at Towleroad ("All Gay News (and pictures of Zac Efron) All The Time!") where I caught this exchange:

Anon @ 3:46? WTF?

Tops wear chaps all the time--chaps, codpieces, vests, gauntlets, whatever. We like the feel of leather on ourselves and other guys.

You don't know what the f*ck you're talking about.

Posted by: leathertop | Sep 4, 2007 8:05:05 PM

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Leathertop

BS

You probably own a poodle and work in a flower shop besides being a "top unless a worhty man comes along"

leather is drag without the heels.

This s/m submissive has met your kind before and probably topped you.

If a man wears leather then you can bet he bottoms

Posted by: anon | Sep 4, 2007 9:10:31 PM

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PS

Real tops don't wear leather because they don't need to boost themselves with illusion.

20+ years in the s/m dom/sub community and never met a real top who wore leather.

Posted by: anon | Sep 4, 2007 9:12:43 PM

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You're so cute ANON. I love it when leather-nerds like you start lecturing others that you know all the rules to *every* leatehr community in existence. You sound like an autistic trekkie.

Posted by: ray | Sep 4, 2007 10:03:52 PM

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These days hardly anyone still wears leather in any kind of social situation like bars. There's like 1/2 of a leather bar in all of NYC now. He better hurry! I'm not really up on this stuff--has it all gone underground with the Internet or simply disappeared??

As to the photo, I am once again repulsed by what Photoshop can do to a person's appearance. He's much better looking than that. The hair doesn't help either.

Posted by: anon (gmail.com) | Sep 4, 2007 11:07:30 PM

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Thanks ray

Now go feed your poodle and go to sleep because you have an early day at the flower shop.

:-)

Posted by: anon | Sep 4, 2007 11:20:42 PM

The photo they are referring to is, of course, one of John Barrowman.

None of this has anything to do with anything, of course, but it amused me so there. As you were.

It's wrong of me to just be pausing through this new trailer, cursing the fact that there's not enough Ianto in it for me to properly assess the pie situation?

( SPOILERS )

Still no clue about when the hell it's on, though. Arsewipes.

This article has been linked to extensively on my flist: Why Can't A Kiss Just Be A Kiss?, which I am now linking to as well, because it's an interesting read and all about the American media's EWWGROSS!! approach to onscreen male/male kissing. The Letterman interview with James Franco mentioned in the article is here, watch it:

Wow. Just... wow. When did Letterman turn into Leno with the crowd-pleasing homophobia, by the way? I've been out of the Yank loop for so long. That uncomfortable, embarrased attitude, dudes, it's like Leno and Ryan Phillipe all over again. (If you don't know what I'm talking about just google the phrase "gayest look" and work it out from there.) Just for once, I wish people like Franco wouldn't stoop to tittering along with this homophobic bullshit. He's a young, good-looking actor, who obviously doesn't have a problem with onscreen ghey, and he's in a prime position to call someone like Letterman out on it and tell him it's a stupid fucking question. Someone on

alba17's journal (which is where I've snagged most of these links from) asked the question why nobody's asked Sean Penn what it's like to kiss a guy. I have to say, I firmly believe it's because Penn would, in fact, probably say "That's a stupid fucking question and you're a pathetic little man for asking it. I'm an actor" (Yeah, I have a bit of a soft spot for Penn. Don't judge me.) Because it's true. Nobody's ever asked Toby Maguire what it was like kissing Kirsten Dunst when she has a face like a slapped arse, yet asking a bloke what it's like to kiss Sean Penn, and implying that it must be really goddamn awful is a perfectly acceptable thing to say. It's fucked up.

Anyway, the interesting counterpoint is of course provided by Teh Barrowman:

And that Welsh beefcake GDL here (I'm referencing this article because I NEVER KNEW IT HAD A PAGE 2. Yeah, I'm a dumbass. Thanks to

andreth47 for the link.):
"It's not as much of an issue [in the U.K.] at all. I don't get it, I don't understand why it's controversial, I don't understand why it's anyone's business or why it becomes anyone's problem where you stick your dick. Because it's not an issue for me, I don't really see us as pioneers. If we are viewed as pioneers, I just feel sorry for the people that are just coming 'round, because the wankers should have grown up much longer ago.

There's nothing wrong with [two men kissing] and the fact that people are interested in [Jack and Ianto's] relationship – I'd like that to be because of the chemistry. That's the reason I want it to be popular, not because, oh my God, it's a SciFi show with a gay relationship. I know people are going to be like that, but because it's not an issue for me, I sort of haven't got time for people it is an issue for."

Bless you, my son. (I'll just be really quick about saying that GDL might be veering a bit far to the other side of the debate in his vehemence about it "not being an issue", a slight appreciation of the fact that it is an issue for some people, especially across the pond, and therefore, in some circles, an important thing he's involved in here might not be misplaced. Honeypie. Just sayin'.)

And that, my friends, is why LB and GDL will never make it in Hollywood. The acceptable Tinseltown answer to the question of what it's like to kiss a guy is "It made me do a sick in my mouth a little." TRY TO REMEMBER THAT.

Just to prove not all of those crazy yanks are crazy, and to reassure everyone that today's generation of American kids will grow up JUST FINE. Here's Neil Patrick Harris on Sesame Street. As the Shoe Fairy. That's SHOE. FAIRY. Oh, yes. Watch as he imprints on the fragile minds of today's kiddies. GO NPH!

Seriously, though, I hear they were egging him on??

For fuck's sake, he's a GROWN MAN. He's a grown man, in the entertainment industry, who lives in Britain and can't help, surely, but be aware of the climate that the Ross/Brand business created at the BBC, and the scrutiny that BBC Radio, in particular, is under at the moment. He should know better And at the end of the day, if you didn't get your dick out and wave it at people, you wouldn't have to apologise to anyone, so the lesson is, quite simply, DON'T WAVE YOUR DICK AT PEOPLE.

Give me strength.

In defense of me... First of all, I love how when I post something about Barrowman, it never gets linked in the torchwood_three newsletter, because it'll usually be about me thinking he's a bit of a dick. The Barrowmafia is strong. Not that I give a rat's arse, it's just something I've noticed.

Secondly, I've noticed that the extreme Barrowman love tends to come from Americans. I find that interesting from a sociological perspective, and I can understand where that comes from. A lot of American fans seem to find his out-and-out outness and happy-go-lucky lifestyle refreshingly different. As a European, I find it a mite tedious, and slightly overly perky and, indeed, American. I get outness on my telly and in my parliament and my newspapers and everywhere else on a daily basis, and as soon as you start going OTT with that outness, it strikes me as being a calculated exploitation of one's sexuality, which I associate with camp light entertainers and panto stars like Paul O'Grady and Julian Clary. But then, that's what Barrowman is. And the US doesn't really have Graham Nortons and Paul O'Gradys, and it certainly doesn't have that not-in-your-face outness of politicians and newspeople and actors and whoever that I take for granted over here, so I guess Barrowman is refreshing to a lot of Americans (As an aside, whatever happened to those uber-camp light entertainers I seem to recall the US having back in the seventies and eighties on things like Hollywood Squares and The Love Boat? Did they disappear into the woodwork out when AIDS hit? Did it cease being funny to be stereotypically gay? Were those guys ever really accepted as being gay by mainstream America, or were they just point-and-laugh funny because they acted gay? And why can't I remember any of their names?) But yeah, anyway, I can see why people think he's cool, and seriously, if you love the guy, go for it. There are far worse people on this earth to love, and apart from anything else, I don't think the man has a nasty bone in his body. Apart from the bone that would probably make a joke about the phrase "nasty bone", and that bone's just crude, but not nasty. And if he's got just one Torchwood fan who's never really been in contact with homosexuality and never known anyone who's gay and never really thought about it, to realise that it's okay to be gay and the world isn't going to end because two guys shack up and get a couple of gay dogs and move into your neighbourhood, then that's a great thing, because that's how it works. Go Barrowmanfans, go forth and be happy, I have nothing against you. I just think he's a bit of a dick. But that's just me.

A specific defense of me, not that I've been named, but I can read between the lines, I never claimed that Barrowman has corrupted the virginal GDL and turned him into a waving-his-cock-in-your-face-type monster. Though I did say something along those lines here once that may have been construed that way. Gareth David-Lloyd is a 27-year-old man and I fully believe that he, like most 27-year-olds, will happily and drunkenly wave his cock in anyone's face, stick it down anyone's throat and possibly even try to stick things up it for a bet just like any healthy boy his age, without the need of ANY encouragement from anyone else. What I DID say was in conjunction with all the hullabaloo surrounding the Hub convention, and it was that I think Barrowman, who's been around a bit and is, let's face it a lot older and presumably wiser, has been a bad influence on convention n00bs like Gareth and Naoko, not in inciting bad behaviour, but in giving the impression that this sort of behaviour is perfectly acceptable. None of that would have been an issue for me were it not for the fact that after that particular convention, vibes were being spread around the interwebs that What Happened At The Hub Should Stay At The Hub, and the impression was given that the actors' behaviour at said convention somehow wasn't palatable for the general public. And in that respect I'm probably just too much of an old woman, and more forgiving of the youngsters, in as much as I think Barrowman really is old enough to know better, and the reason I singled out Barrowman specifically, is because those vibes I mentioned were reported to be coming from him solely, and not from anyone else, which I found hypocritical of someone who so eagerly encourages the crudeness in others. In retrospect, like I've said before, I may have misread the fact that JB specifically didn't want his behaviour getting out. Not being a huge fan of his, I kind of misinterpreted some of the uberBarrowmanettes' tone of "JOHN TALKED TO US OMG I TALKED TO JOHN!!" as "JOHN is the one, out of all of them, who specifically felt this way", simply because that first interpretation doesn't really impress me and therefore I kind of just read over it and went straight for the second. But yeah, that's why I went for John. Make of it what you will.

Oh, and dudes, I've never claimed that Jack is a subby little bottom. I do, frequently claim Ianto is a dommy little top, which is a hangover from my glee at being proven right in my assertion, all that time ago, that Ianto was a manwhore who pulled the wool over Jack's eyes re. Lisa by distracting him with sex, but I've never once stated that that implies Jack is a subby little bottom. I really should stop reading the anonymeme, I know. I can't help myself.

( TORCHWOOD SPOILERS )

Oh yes, and when Torchwood is axed, everyone will blame Moffat. Everyone from now on will blame Moffat for EVERYTHING. It's got nothing to do with Moffat, though I do believe Moffat wants nothing to do with Torchwood, but that in itself would not be an adequate reason for the BBC to axe the show. The hate for Moffat is strong, and it's completely unfounded, and it's only going to get worse and worse and worse. I weep for this fandom, I really do. I still love you, Steven.

As you were.

Recent realisations:

I don't watch Merlin because I think all the men are fuck ugly, and yes, I am that shallow. I need something to look at, at least.

On that note, I have no idea why I watch Survivors, which is depressing and horrid. Though Freema dying right at the beginning cheered me up a bit, I thought she was going to be in all of it. In fact, the fact that she isn't in it may well be the reason I am still watching, just out of sheer surprise. (Having said that, I think I could possibly grow to find Paterson Joseph slightly... hot? I'm certainly not frowning on all the Whovian gossip at the moment.)

The reason I bitch about John Barrowman so much is because if I see one more soft-focus icon of the guy I am going to hurl my guts up. No man, no matter how gay, should be allowed to have his picture taken in that manner. Stills from that music video count double in this respect. It's like he said "Do me like Maddie in Moonlighting, can we do that? That would be super." Sweet airbrushed baby Jesus.

Random predictions:

I think we're not hearing who the new Doctor is, unlike back when Eccleston left and we heard within a week, because we will find out in the Christmas episode who the new Doctor is. I'm not saying it's necessarily Morrissey because it more than likely isn't, but I reckon we'll know by the end of the episode. They're certainly not going to tell us between now and Christmas.

Torchwood filming has apparently wrapped, with no outside action having taken place for about 6 weeks. ( Spoilery speculation... )

I've stated quite clearly in my userinfo that I'm not hugely keen on discussing actors' private lives in this journal, and I realise I'm breaking my own rules with this one, but I have some issues with John Barrowman that I'd like to get off my chest once and for all, and because they pertain loosely to characterisation in Torchwood, and Torchwood's depiction of homosexuality, I'm going to make an exception.

( It's cut for length and gayness... )

My conclusion? I don't really have one. Barrowman tends to think that everyone is like him, or everyone is not like him, depending on the circumstances. His relationship with Scott is what all gay relationships are like, except when they aren't, and straight people sit on the sofa every night not having sex and eating crisps or something, unless they start dressing up, in which case they'll need a safeword, or someone will end up getting hurt. Yeah, I make about as much sense as he does.

ETA: The reason I brought up The Making of Me and the reason I say I was confused by it, is that I find it odd that John would be so adamant about proving that his homosexuality is innate and genetically defined, while at the same time, aside from this show, he does a very good job of painting homosexuality as fun and exciting lifestyle choice, by virtue of his apparent inability to A) distinguish his own homosexual experiences and lifestyle from a broader experience of the gay community as a whole and B) separate his homosexuality from other aspects of his public persona and lifestyle, which are all things he chooses to be and do. I find that... kind of weird?

Ummm... nah, I got nothing. They were just a bunch of words I typed out. Feel free to go back your humdrum lives now.

If you luffff the Barrowman, maybe it's best you avert your eyes right now.

Man, this Hub convention thing is going to start hitting fandom_wank, soon, I guarantee it. A quick recap of events: Con organisers and "the talent" get together and tell the attendees that the piss-take play the actors will be putting on MAY NOT BE FILMED under any circumstances. Word is, actors will be FORBIDDEN to EVER DO CONS EVER AGAIN EVER, if video of said play is ever to get out (Yeah, that sort of thing happens a lot, right? NO MORE CONVENTIONS FOR YOU, BOY!!) Cue lots of hush-hush John-asked-me-personally posts on the communities telling people that's VRY IMPOTANT SRS BSNS that people report and tell on those who might be tempted to post videos of said play. Or the panels. No, wait, not the panels, the panels are okay. Right? Oh, no, they're not. Don't post ANY VIDEOS of said convention ANYWHERE, EVER, because PEOPLE MAY DIE AND CAREERS MAY BE RUINED if you do. If you see videos, AVERT YOUR EYES and report them to Showmasters, John Barrowman, John Barrowman's gay dog and the Secretary General of the UN. Are we all clear on this?

Between the lines, and mostly in the John-told-me-personally comments and posts, it becomes clear that, apart from the actual play business, for which it would appear there are legitimate reasons, Barrowman HIMSELF and his managers are slightly uncomfortable with the material of the play and indeed even the panels coming to light. Mention is made that John wouldn't want his nieces and nephews to see all the mankissing and pants. Awww, diddums, John. (ETA: So, obviously, AfterElton immediately devotes an entire blog post to

smirnoffmule's pictures of said mankissing. And pants.)

I have a problem with Barrowman and I've said it a few times before, I think he's a man who uses his sexuality as an excuse to behave in such a way that would otherwise be classed as offensive, but because of his Big Fat Ghey, we all have to find it perfectly acceptable and are not allowed to say anything about it. In the past year of convention-going, Barrowman's asserted his frankly HUGE personality and old-skool-carry-on-risqué-sexuality all over the shop, rubbing it off on the likes of Kai and Naoko and Gareth, and frankly, along the way, turning wee Gareth, especially, from the convention wallflower he was a year or so ago, into a MONSTER of lewd behaviour and blatant sexuality (Oh, God, and that's ALL GOOD, don't get me wrong.) And yes, I credit (and blame) Barrowman for this, and for the way TW convos seem to be slipping and slipping further down into strictly NC17 places to be. And now? Suddenly WE are responsible for protecting his reputation as housewives' and kiddies' favourite. Piss off. You make your big gay bed and you lie in it, John, seriously.

I don't mean to offend what I know are a lot of Barrowmanfans out there, but this latest spate of "No, no, John doesn't want anyone to see it!" posting has got RIGHT ON MY TITS.

Sorry. :(

ETA: Let me clarify, before it gets confusing. I don't have a problem with JB's behaviour, I think it's hilarious. I have a problem with "Oh, that's just John's Big Gay Personality" being used as an excuse for said behaviour (and I think he himself has, on occasion, been guilty of that). "Gay" is not a word that means "allowed to wave his penis in your face". Likewise, I don't have a problem with Gareth's behaviour, which by all accounts is disgusting in the extreme. Great, I hope he gets his cock out soon and we can all sleep easy at night. What I have a problem with is the onus being thrown upon FANS to protect the public and the reputations of the artists from the consequences of said behaviour. If YOU, the artist, artist's manager, copyright owner of the show, think an artist's behaviour is unacceptable or will bring down the reputation of the artist or show in question, the onus is on YOU, the artist, manager or copyright owner to stop that behaviour from happening in the first place. END OF STORY.

smirnoffmule has posted some pictures from Teh Hub Torchwood convention here.

I'm reposting some here for luls, but go check out the originals. (ETA: Who was it that revealed to me they were majorly into thighs? There's some good thighage going on over at

smirnoffmule's. Checkit.)

( There was boykissing? )

I've not read many reports from said convention, apparently there was some BIG SEKRIT pisstake play put on by the boys about Torchwood and its Gheyness, and apparently nobody is allowed to know about or show or film it or whatever, and it would seem whatever it was that was said has stretched to people not even writing up reports or posting pics, because apart from these, I haven't seen any. WTF, man? I've seen complete filming of other conventions and I really don't think copyright protection or protection of the Beeb's good name is at play here, it just doesn't make any sense. TW's about the crack and the ghey and surely conventions, convention reports and even shaky crappy filmed bits of conventions on YouTube are just more publicity at the end of the day? Why the big whoop made about this particular sketch? THE ACTORS TAKE THE PISS OUT OF THE SHOW. Yah, dudes. That's not big news to me, or anyone else who watches. Honestly. Something's not quite computing here.

Anywho. Yeah, that's Gareth's bum.

John and Gareth feed the RPS bunnies some more...

( DAMN THAT WATERMARKING!! )

I've said before about how much I hate Real Person Fiction. (Though, yes, I wrote that one once where David Tennant and Sophia Myles have some sex, kill a Real Person Fic authoress and then set off on a killing spree across the Nevada desert. But that was postmodern, deconstructivist RPF.) But yes, I think it's gross. Unless someone writes me that Gareth David-Lloyd/Felicity Kendall May/December porn that I keep asking for. With a strap-on. I digress! I HATE RPF!!! It's intrusive and downright weird and the only thing I hate more than RPF are photomanips.

I DIGRESS AGAIN. IF. And that's a big IF. If I were the sort of person who was inclined to write RPF, though... Based, say, on those kind of odd pictures of GDL and JB seemingly canoodling off screen... It would be an epic, multi-chaptered thing of beauty and would revolve around The Welsh-Scottish/American Gay Mafia 's repeated and hilarious attempts to Tempt Gareth David-Lloyd Into Bisexuality For The Good Of Gaykind. Each chapter would tell another tale of how Barrowman and Davies, both lynchpins of the aforementioned organisation, would cheat, lie and bitch at each other in an attempt to be the one to reap the Undisclosed Monetary Reward for the achieving of said goal. It would run and run and run. There would be in-jokes in which Davies would constantly accuse Barrowman of being unneccessarily camp and Barrowman would call Davies "you old queen" a lot. Each chapter would end with the two of them fighting like girls and Gareth just walking away, smoking a fag and finding himself a fangirl to stick it to. It would be EPIC. If I were to write such a thing.

Which is why I don't do fic on any level, really.

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