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I NEVER SAID GDL TURNED DOWN RTD IN A SEXUAL MANNER AND WAS THEREFORE RUTHLESSLY FRIDGED.

I said I'd heard other people saying it, and I was just repeating what I'd heard other people saying. Your honour. Okay, and I may have not said it WASN'T the case. But of course, I meant to, I was just putting the dinner on or something.

LOL, anyway, the reason I bring it up is because this rumour was mentioned on the anonmeme and I thought there was an interesting discussion there, because people did seem to be being really flippant about that sort of thing happening. Obviously, or at least in this instance, these sorts of crazy rumours are nothing to do with some sort of homophobic gay=sexual predator stereotype, but they derive solely from the fact that RTD mentions GDL in a quite lecherous manner several times in his book. And to make a reasonably serious point, if RTD was straight and had said the sort of things he said about GDL about some young unknown actress like Freema or somebody, or if God forbid Moffat were to publish in a book, for all to see, forever that doing rewrites for Karen Gillan was good fun because it meant he could meet with her in private and explain them and let's face it, he thinks she's hot and she gives him a hard-on, you wouldn't think it was quite so fucking funny. So, you know, I'm just throwing that out there. I've never really commented on the Writer's Tale thing because I don't want to constantly type on the internets about how I think Russell's a bit of a creep because it's beside the point and my opinion on the man matters not a jot to anyone, anywhere and it has nothing to do with his talents, or lack thereof, as a writer. But yes, I thought it was creepy at the time and I still think it's creepy now and it's the reason that speculation like this exists in the first place.

So yeah, there's that. But to put the record straight, RTD killed off Ianto because he can't write drama that doesn't involve people dying and he can't write romance that doesn't involve two people not being able to communicate openly with each other unless one of them is drawing their last breath. Those are the reasons.

Legal disclaimer ends.

So, like I've said, I don't really believe in all this SAVE ~~FERRIS~~ IANTO nonsense, because it's pointless and for me, it's not really Ianto's death, but his reduction from a character to a bit part, a lovesick and ignored appendage of Jack's, and ultimately a plot device in CoE that upset me.

But then there's this community: Fans For Ianto which is... strangely sweet. Sweet to the point of moving me to tears somehow. No, really. I'm behind this sort of thing. I like the sentiment. We're all just a bunch of people typing at the end of the day, but yeah, a bunch of people nonetheless. We're not fucking insane or overentitled, we're just fucking people. I might even post to this community. Even though I don't want Ianto back. At least, not if that means RTD ever gets his mitts on him again. But yeah. I like this.

Needs moar boys.

ETA: Yeah, so I posted to this community, it's awaiting moderation. The reason I did it is because it had this vibe to it, like, you know one of those climactic scenes in an 80's John Hughes flick where one by one everyone in the cafeteria stands up and says "I'm Spartacus" or whatever it is they do in those films, that kind of "Oh captain my captain" thing? It feels like that to me, this kind THIS IS US thing, which is REALLY TWEE, I know, but for some reason it made me happier about what's happened and how I've been feeling about it, and especially that RTD thing about fans and how we're just nothing and fuck you I'll do what I want to. Fuck him. I just wanted to say that somehow and now I've said it. It would be nice if the WHOLE OF FANDOM would go there and say it, and I know that won't happen, but still, it's the thought that counts. Ramble over.

Random things:

I like fandom because it brings me joy and if it can't bring me joy, then I can't be bothered with it. Sometimes I need to rant and rave about things because I need to get rid of the shit in my head that doesn't bring me joy. RTD doesn't bring me joy, he sucked the joy out of Who for me a good two seasons ago and now he's sucked the joy and life out of Torchwood as well. Sorry if that opinion offends you, I don't agree with the opinion of everyone I talk to, and I don't expect everyone I talk to to agree with mine. Let's agree to disagree and leave it at that. If you can't do that, then fine. Go away. Fandom =/= srs bsns. Is telly shit.

kelticbanshee ia looking for transcripts of the pre-CoE interviews at NY ComicCon with Eve Myles and Euros Lyn, and at Torchsong with GDL, JB and whoever else was there (well... there-ish). If you were there, give her a shout, guys. It's important research and that.

Things that do give me joy: £480 pounds for a pony already! You people rock my world and I fucking love you. Honestly. THAT'S what I'M talking about.

Can I just reiterate for all you people who are all excited about Torchwood Series 4 now: JACK IS NOT IN IT. Mark my words. When it happens and you get all sads about that, I'll point back here at this post and laugh just a little bit. But not AT you, WITH you. And then we will cry and have a drink together like friends, yeah? Because I do love you all. Really, I do.

Yesterday I chucked my 2p into two conversations about Children of Earth, both of which have since been deleted. I know it was't my contributions that got them deleted, but I thought it was amusing nonetheless. The first was a conversation on

torch_wood about the MYFANWY'S DEAD interview with RTD that I linked to here in this journal as well. I called Bullshit on that fucking argument that keeps getting trotted out along the lines of "Well, RTD's a successful writer so he can do what he wants, and when YOU write a successful BBC drama, THEN you can criticise." I've mentioned this one before. In fact, I said it here after Day Three aired. It's bullshit. I'm not going to say any more on the subject than I already said in that post, but anyone using this argument anywhere near me gets pointed and laughed at from now on for being REALLY QUITE DIM. Fuck off.

The second was a community pimp in

torchwoodcoffee for THAT community where nobody's allowed to say anything nasty about CoE and everyone who does is immediately judged to be a batshit Ianto fangirl with a grudge and a sad longing in their knickers. NEWSFLASH: I KNEW IANTO WAS GOING TO DIE, IT MADE DRAMATIC SENSE TO ME THAT HE WOULD. I didn't think it would be in the cheapest and nastiest and most clichéd circumstances known to mankind, and I didn't think the show would then degenerate into complete nihilistic, badly written, edgy-for-the-sake-of-it NONSENSE after which Captain Jack flies away like Ford Prefect hitching a lift. Just to make that clear. If I were to rewrite CoE Days Four and Five, I'd probably still kill Ianto. I'd just do it FOR A REASON. I piped into that conversation because the tone of that community gets right on my tits, and I'm sick of being told I must be unable to APPRECIATE GENIUS due to Ianto batshit, just because I thought CoE started well and then ended shit. I thought CoE started well and then ended shit. End of story.

A few bits and bobs of interest.

I'd like to repost this quote posted on my journal by kateorman:
"I reckon the chances of Ianto dying (or otherwise exiting the narrative) are diddly/squat. GDL would be insane to quit and the showrunners would be insane to dump their slashtastic drawcard."
Now obviously I'm not just reposting this to point and laugh (well, maybe just a bit), I am in fact posting it because I'm seeing a lot of not-really-based-on-anything assumptions in discussions lately that GDL left Torchwood against his will. I posited the theory quite some time ago that this may well not have been the case, but few people seem to be taking that one up. I still believe it, though, if nothing else, it would explain to me why a stroppy RTD gave Ianto such a craptastic death. Obviously, there's that other explanation doing the rounds that RTD fridged Ianto because GDL turned him down. Sexually. Which is a much more amusing explanantion, obviously. I'm not subscribing to it, but I'm just throwing it out there for everyone to have a jolly fun think about.

holdingoff is hosting a fic project one or two of you might be interested in here. It's called Turn Left, Torchwood, and it's an episode-by-episode rewrite of all three series, each episode with one minor change, which will propagate into the next episode, etc etc. So go write if you like that sort of thing, it sounds cool.

Okay, so probably the weirdest after-effect of Children of Earth has been the charity fundraising efforts. It all started when someone created a charity page supporting James Moran because people were so OMG MEAN to him and Torchwood fans really ought to distance themselves from that sort of behaviour and there's no better way to show how much better one is than someone else than by giving to charidee. Or something. The end result is that two JustGiving pages were created supporting Moran for Children in Need and supporting Moran for Cancer Research. As a retaliatory measure, another page was created mourning Ianto for Children in Need. Now, obviously, all of this is just a bit silly and now that some of the more heated emotions have died down, we can see this business for what it is. IT'S A FUCKING CHARITY FIIIIGHT!!! GO!! Go fight Ianto's corner, guys, this is me, talking trash atcha. WE SHALL PREVAIL!!! We need to win this one, so GO!!! The best thing about a charity fight is of course that nobody really loses in the end. In order to make things truly fair, somebody should probably create a Cancer Research site for Ianto, so that the nature of the charity doesn't create any sort of bias and then WE CAN KICK THEIR SYCOPHANTIC MORAN WORSHIPPING ARSES PROPERLY. I'm joking, of course. I don't give to charity because I'm a fucking tightwad. But I might make an exception just to KICK MORAN'S LYING ARSE INTO NEXT WEEK. No, I'm joking again. Obviously. No, really, I am. You shouldn't take me too seriously, guys.

I'd just ilke to say a warm hello to those of you that have friended me in the past week because of woe or anger or whatever. It's a nice change from those of you who have defriended me for not properly APPRECIATING ART. Welcome. Let's get drunk.

Somebody noted this on the meme the other day, but I don't see it having been taken up as widespread fact. THIS is NOT Rusty Davies' website. I'm just sayin'. It's a website ABOUT Rusty Davies, and it's nice that it has a messageboard which you can all use to vent your frustration, but can you stop pretending it's Russell's website. Look at it. The fanvid, the headshot, the outdated cv. Srsly, guys, come on.

I feel personally responsible for perhaps pointing one or two Torchwood people towards who_anon. Please tell me this is not the case. I have NO idea what's going on there anymore, but the wank on my friendslist continues unabated. My two cents: Seriously, I think the kind of hive mentality on who_anon polarises opinion when it comes to fannish things, I think the entire place puts people on the defensive (which sometimes translates as attack, sure, it's the best form of defense, right?), which carries on not just there, but elsewhere, in other communities and people's personal journals as well. I think the place causes wank and relishes in prolonging it, and that's why I'm staying well out. I'm MUCH HAPPIER staying well out. I LOVE EVERYONE, remember? I posted once about Torchwood fandom being a happy friendly place full of fuzzy bunnies, and honestly, deep down, I know this is still the case. Let's all have a hug. Even you meme-goers, I love you guys too, I just don't want to play over there no more because you keep hogging the swings and throwing sand.

GRATUITOUS PIMP: Anyone in possession of a reasonably scrawny boyfriend of the River Island "medium slim fit" variety? Fancy dressing him like Owen Harper? ( Okay, so this shirt hasn't got the bestest associations for Owen fans, but still... )

Where do I start looking to find the cool kids into Being Human, dudes? I think I may well have decided I liked that show lots. Iconworthy lots. May well fire up photoshop.

Speaking of photoshop, is it tasteless of me to start a kind of running meme in my journal involving animated gifs that feature Ianto and HUGE cocks? It's just that there was another godawful manip that kind of... inspired me. I thought I might give it a go later in the week.

That is all.

I'm back! More or less, still a bit busy and out and about with kiddie holidays. I HAVE SO MUCH TO POST ABOUT OMG IT'S NOT NORMAL.

I shall break it up into various and assorted posts which I shall be posting throughout the weekend.

Firstly: WHO_ANON, what else?

( TL;DR WARNING ABOUT STUFF THAT HAPPENED AGES AGO ON WHO ANON AND IS NOW TOTALLY OLD. SKIP THIS BIT. )

Sorry about that, I had to get it out of my system even though it's OLD and irrelevant and of no interest to anyone. But I stand by my general gist; this fandom seems to have become nastier and bitchier recently and I find it unpleasant. From now on I shall be dealing with this perceived development by pretending it doesn't exist and bringing luls and cock and pie to the party instead. I shall be returning you to your regularly scheduled programming forthwith. Next up: TOYS! (Seriously, it is a post about toys. Whovian toys and WHY NO IANTOE???? And such. Stay tuned!)

I've officially stopped even reading

who_anon, and if it doesn't get less wanky soon, I'll probably stop reading

who_secrets as well. I'm fucking fed up with fandom and it's fucking bullshittery. I just don't get it. I'll be more specific as to what it is I don't get.
I understand why people like the meme for picspams and general love and whatnot, but seriously, WHY THE FUCK can't people just post love and picspams with a name attached? Why is the only place you can go to get some nice, constructive criticism along the lines of "What episodes should a Six-virgin watch to get into Six?" an anonymous meme? Why can't people ask those questions when they're logged in and get them answered by people who are logged in without being afraid of looking like clueless newbies? Why do you have to be anonymous to share your love of Mickey? I mean, I do understand that it's nice to say these things without being judged on who you are, but still, if you have an opinion, you should be able to express it, isn't that what fandom is about? I've got plenty of opinions and to be perfectly frank, I think expressing them anonymously on a meme is pretty weak. Here are my unanon opinions on some of the things the meme has been talking about recently, until I stopped reading it, anyway:

ask_captainjack was funny for a time. The tone of it is still quite funny and cleverly written, it's just that the content has become increasingly unfunny and when pedophilia reared its head, I defriended the sock. As a sockpuppet account, I think it should conform to the same rules as a community when it comes to pimping itself out on another community. It advertised itself, and as such, anyone who was interested in reading it, could have friended the journal. It didn't need constant updates on torch_wood and the mods were quite right to kindly request that they stop. It wasn't a judgement call on how funny it was, and even if it was, so what? Mods is as mods does.

cot_tossed is great. Most of the fic nominated in the CoT awards is dross, and to a fic outsider like me it just seems to be a circlejerk for mediocre fic writers. If I wrote fic, and was nominated for CoT, I'd consider it a very, very dubious honour indeed. The whole thing will probably turn out to be a badfic!author popularity contest of lultastic proportions. It's pathetic, though, that someone should feel the need to offer their critiques from a sock account for fear of upsetting authors. If you take your writing seriously, take concrit like a grown up already, I know the authors on my flist do, and their writing's all the better for it. The fic world will never cease to puzzle me.

I don't understand Gwen-bashers. God knows, I don't really like Gwen much, but I don't get all the hate for her. I think some of this has to do with that voice in the back of my head that says "For fuck's sake, it's a tv show!" I don't really know to what extent other people hear that voice sometimes. Having said that, if you're on antigwenallies, it's not like I'm going to defriend you or anything, just like I'd never defriend anyone for liking RPF or photomanips. I'll mock you till the cows come home, obviously, but live and let live already.

doctorwho became a completely unreadable community well over a year ago. The fact there are still actual people on it telling each other about how they found a potato the other day that looked a bit like Christopher Eccleston's head amazes me. I came onto the internet to get away from mindless conversational drivel. If I wanted that sort of thing, I'd talk to people in shops.

Seriously, though, why do people feel the urge to be so fucking bitchy about each other on an anonymous meme? If I want to be bitchy about people, I'll be bitchy to their face. If I've never been bitchy to your face, you can rest assured that I probably like you, or in any case am more or less indifferent, I've got a lot of stuff on my mind.

ANYWAY. I never really responded to the question I posted about fic and prompts and challenges and such, some people seemed to take it as critique. It wasn't meant that way, I was genuinely trying to get some authors to tell me why they write to prompts and a lot of you did, so thank you. I'm a bit of a fic n00b, and especially since I'm running a community now, I feel the need to kind of read up and gauge what's done and what isn't, you know? The real reason I asked is because I was wondering if a challenge or prompt thing would be a good way to pimp

ninja_teaboy, or if it would be considered a mediocre badfic-type thing to do. Not writing fic, I really don't know. I still don't, really, but I've got a bit more of a clue as to where people are coming from, so thanks for that. :) You're all terribly helpful people.

Well, I don't know, feel free to join in, anyway. Oh, and if you've been removed from my flist, it's because you're twittering me. I don't care for it, if I did, I would sign up there, and I haven't, so, you know.

My meme:
( FIVE FANDOMS I COULD JUST NEVER GET INTO )

Those are mine, tell me yours. Just killing time till the Torchwood trailer.

MERRY CHRISTMAS.

And for Christmas I bring you... assorted fannish gripes.

Some of you don't quite seem to believe me on the bears thing.

torchwood_bears

There you fucking go. And THAT, ladies, I am telling you right now, is NOT normal fucking behaviour. There's been a lot of talk on the flist lately about girl fans and boy fans and all that sort of shizzle. I have to say I don't really have that much of an opinion on the subject but I must admit that A)that bear thing B)grown women writing words like "SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" and using far too many exclamation marks and C)flowery Jack/Ianto wedding and mpreg fic are the three things that make me reluctant to tell the normals out there that I am a WOMAN who is a FAN of anything whatsoever. Because, by association, I always feel a bit embarrassed for my sex and I'd rather just keep my mouth shut. So yeah, thanks for that. Grow the fuck up. On that same note, I think I've explained before that the reason I do things like mention pie and cock far too often is really quite simple. Pie references tend to put off the typical squeeing fangirl who can see no wrong with the object of their affection and therefore can't even take a joke when I say that object's looking a bit jiggly round the tum. Obviously I don't think Gareth David-Lloyd is fat. Anyone who's taken me seriously and taken offense at my pie jokes is really not somebody I'm wanting to be talking to anyway, so good fucking riddance. Cock? Yeah, well, that's me just trying to get as far away from squee and love hearts and DRESSING UP FUCKING BEARS as I can physically get whilst still expressing my appreciation for someone on the telly. You all understand that, right? Meh... whatever.

I am THIS FUCKING CLOSE to defriending torchwoodcoffee. I have no respect for any comm that allows NC17 photomanips, I'm sorry, I just don't. And the thing with me and photomanips is, I know how hard they are to do, and, in fact, I'm actually pretty good at them. As such, I can't actually help clicking on pretty much any one I come across out of a morbid curiosity to find out how good the manipper in question actually is. In doing so, I have found out two things about me and photomanips and they are: A)there is not a single person in either Who or TW fandom who is actually any good at them. They are all unequivocally awful. And don't come to me and say "but oh... have you seen so-and-so's stuff", because yes, I have, I know who the shoppers are in these fandoms and they're all really bad at it, trust me. Bad. B)The more it happens and the more I stumble across it, the more I find photoshopped sex scenes and nudity featuring the real actual faces of real actual actors not just worrying but completely fucking morally reprehensible. If an actor wanted to get his cock out or put it up someone else on screen for everyone to see, that would be his prerogative. Just because he doesn't, doesn't give you the fannish right to paste his head onto someone else's naked and/or rutting frame. "Oh, Whelk, stop whining and just don't click it", I hear you say. Yeah, fine, whatever, I can't help myself. I NEED to know if it's going to be as bad, badly thought through, and badly executed as I think it's going to be. I'm a masochist. I think I've mentioned that before. It invariably is. Sometimes, it's bad enough to make me want to leave fandom and the internet behind for good. That's how much I hate them.

I LOVE my community ninja_teaboy and its members. I am therefore putting out another shout to my flist to go and read my all new community guidelines, and come and join the kickass!Ianto cause and input fic and all the rest of it. I'm not actually being hugely active, what with the holidays, but I will pay it more attention when Christmas is over, I promise. I also know I promised cageyklio to respond to a fic that was recced there, and that's still something I'm going to do, because, to my surprise, I don't actually agree with you and I'll write a wee review of the story when I get round to it and tell you why. So... I will actually do that. In a bit.

Thank you to everyone who's been pm-ing me about the comm and in general, and saying nice things about me and about the stuff I write, it's really sweet and I really appreciate it, I feel like I only ever really bitch on this LJ, and in essence that's true, I only really ever have something to say when I'm unsatisfied with something, but it's good to know it amuses and entertains people because that thought keeps me just a little bit sane. So, thank you and I hope everyone has a good Christmas.

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