Randomness...

[tencrush]

A few bits and bobs of interest.

• I'd like to repost this quote posted on my journal by kateorman:
  "I reckon the chances of Ianto dying (or otherwise exiting the narrative) are diddly/squat. GDL would be insane to quit and the showrunners would be insane to dump their slashtastic drawcard."
  Now obviously I'm not just reposting this to point and laugh (well, maybe just a bit), I am in fact posting it because I'm seeing a lot of not-really-based-on-anything assumptions in discussions lately that GDL left Torchwood against his will. I posited the theory quite some time ago that this may well not have been the case, but few people seem to be taking that one up. I still believe it, though, if nothing else, it would explain to me why a stroppy RTD gave Ianto such a craptastic death. Obviously, there's that other explanation doing the rounds that RTD fridged Ianto because GDL turned him down. Sexually. Which is a much more amusing explanantion, obviously. I'm not subscribing to it, but I'm just throwing it out there for everyone to have a jolly fun think about.


• holdingoff is hosting a fic project one or two of you might be interested in here. It's called Turn Left, Torchwood, and it's an episode-by-episode rewrite of all three series, each episode with one minor change, which will propagate into the next episode, etc etc. So go write if you like that sort of thing, it sounds cool.


• Okay, so probably the weirdest after-effect of Children of Earth has been the charity fundraising efforts. It all started when someone created a charity page supporting James Moran because people were so OMG MEAN to him and Torchwood fans really ought to distance themselves from that sort of behaviour and there's no better way to show how much better one is than someone else than by giving to charidee. Or something. The end result is that two JustGiving pages were created supporting Moran for Children in Need and supporting Moran for Cancer Research. As a retaliatory measure, another page was created mourning Ianto for Children in Need. Now, obviously, all of this is just a bit silly and now that some of the more heated emotions have died down, we can see this business for what it is. IT'S A FUCKING CHARITY FIIIIGHT!!! GO!! Go fight Ianto's corner, guys, this is me, talking trash atcha. WE SHALL PREVAIL!!! We need to win this one, so GO!!! The best thing about a charity fight is of course that nobody really loses in the end. In order to make things truly fair, somebody should probably create a Cancer Research site for Ianto, so that the nature of the charity doesn't create any sort of bias and then WE CAN KICK THEIR SYCOPHANTIC MORAN WORSHIPPING ARSES PROPERLY. I'm joking, of course. I don't give to charity because I'm a fucking tightwad. But I might make an exception just to KICK MORAN'S LYING ARSE INTO NEXT WEEK. No, I'm joking again. Obviously. No, really, I am. You shouldn't take me too seriously, guys.


• I'd just ilke to say a warm hello to those of you that have friended me in the past week because of woe or anger or whatever. It's a nice change from those of you who have defriended me for not properly APPRECIATING ART. Welcome. Let's get drunk.


• Somebody noted this on the meme the other day, but I don't see it having been taken up as widespread fact. THIS is NOT Rusty Davies' website. I'm just sayin'. It's a website ABOUT Rusty Davies, and it's nice that it has a messageboard which you can all use to vent your frustration, but can you stop pretending it's Russell's website. Look at it. The fanvid, the headshot, the outdated cv. Srsly, guys, come on.

Comments

[ceindreadh.livejournal.com]

I'm seeing a lot of not-really-based-on-anything assumptions in discussions lately that GDL left Torchwood against his will. I posited the theory quite some time ago that this may well not have been the case, but few people seem to be taking that one up.

There's a radio interview with GDL, done on 10th July, posted on Youtube. Carry on Friday

In it, he mentions that his agent told him they were looking for him for only 3 to 4 of the 5 episodes (and that's when he figured something like this was going to happen)
He also says something along the lines of being sat down and told exactly where his character was going in the eps.

Looks like to me it was definitely writers choice rather than actor.

[tencrush]

Righty-ho. It must be the sex thing, then. *files that away in brain*

[as1mplegirl.livejournal.com]

As others have pointed out. It's not like he has work lined up to replace Torchwood. He's probably in the most precarious position work wise to get work outside the show of all the 5 (+Kai Owen) original cast.

[kel-reiley.livejournal.com]

discussions lately that GDL left Torchwood against his will

whether his choice or not, i figure he's probably glad to get out now and can maybe focus on the rest of his career

that rusty website... yeah, i saw the fanvid and was like 'wtf did i just watch?'

[radiant-pip.livejournal.com]

Yeah, that was me posting about it. Mea culpa, mea culpa. I followed that link from somewhere else and was obviously too distraught (and WTF?!?) to think clearly. The stupid, pointless, why-couldn't-GDL-just-have-sex-with-Rusty?? death of Ianto can do that to you.

Sowwy.

[forgiveninasong.livejournal.com]

I am completely appreciating every entry that you are making right now. You're more needed in fandom right now than you realise. Soon, tencrush, people will realise your greatness.

And GDL's greatness of his metaphorical cock, obviously.

[jo02]

The 'going of his own free will' thing has been quietly at the back of my mind too, but for the life of me I can't think of any reasons why an actor - even one who imagines himself as a singer too - would voluntarily give up the one guaranteed job a year.
Any thoughts?
Go on, take your hand off his glorious cock for a moment and climb into his headspace for me, dangerous and scary place though it might be.

[tencrush]

*takes hand off*
Sorry, I didn't realise I was still holding that. It was warm and yielding like a friendly, squishy mouse, yet solid like steel. Fascinating juxtaposition, that.

Okay, no, I can't really think of any valid reason why he would have wanted to quit, so I'm going to go with the thing about him refusing to literally suck Russell's fat dick.

[neadods.livejournal.com]

Having agreed originally with "Ianto won't die, it's insane to piss off the fandom like that" I'm now pretty firmly of the opinion that Ianto died less because of juicy scandalous reasons or other work rather than because RTD has an extremely limited set of tools with which to be Shocking! We know that Moffat has talked him out of gratuitous character deaths on Who, but there's no one to have pointed out that he's overusing the same thing on Torchwood.

I doubt GDL's in dire straits, though. He was a main character in a BBC1 production with huge audience share. That's the best audition an actor unknown 3 years ago could have. And he's getting pretty steady work on the convention circuit, so that'll keep beer and laverbread on the table.

[tencrush]

RTD has an extremely limited set of tools with which to be Shocking!
I know, I know, I'm only joking, really. I'd forgotten about the Jenny thing, actually, he really is a bit of a one-trick-pony in that respect. Hey, at least he himself thinks he's a bit of a genius, I'm sure that keeps him sleeping well at night.

[ionlylurkhere.livejournal.com]

Yeah, this, with added "it was originally going to be Ianto who died in S2, not Owen".

[love-jackianto.livejournal.com]

'I'm now pretty firmly of the opinion that Ianto died less because of juicy scandalous reasons or other work rather than because RTD has an extremely limited set of tools with which to be Shocking!'
Not to mention he enjoys it. In this article he says

quote: You’ve got to be merciless. People will say ‘You love your characters’. But nobody loves their characters that much. If you really write, and you love them, you are the God of them and you can kill them with the click of a finger. It’s joyous to do so.

That whole article really gives a lot of insight into how he thinks and how feels about what he crates.

[stlscape.livejournal.com]

Somebody noted this on the meme the other day, but I don't see it having been taken up as widespread fact. THIS is NOT Rusty Davies' website.

I fell for it for a few seconds, but *very* quickly realized that Rusty wouldn't cater to the ming mongs that way. (The ming mongs being totally unworthy and completely useless at keeping shows on television and all that.)

[bandgeek01.livejournal.com]

That radio interview is awesome that ceindreadh linked to.

But I love your reaasonings here.


Nicole

[dick-grayson.livejournal.com]

Obviously, there's that other explanation doing the rounds that RTD fridged Ianto because GDL turned him down. Sexually. Which is a much more amusing explanantion, obviously.
Very amusing. Seriously, the way Rusty gushed about Gareth's awesomeness in his book, putting it all out there for the entire world to see, well, if there was a proposition and a rejection, hell hath no fury and all that. Still, I think it's more likely that Rusty just likes to pull the trigger on his own characters as often as possible, probably to compensate for something or other. As a kid, he probably built really elaborate sand castles at the high tide mark and danced around in glee every time the ocean swept his lovely creations away.

As for the Web site, looks like its registered to Keith Miller, long-time Who fan. He published 'zines and the fan club monthly back in the day. And, no, I didn't know he existed until I did some research just now. I'm not *that* old skool!

[smirnoffmule.livejournal.com]

I'm setting up a JustGiving page called DEAD YANTOE FOR ORPHAN PUPPIES. I confidently predict we are going to knock all other contenders right out of the f'n game.

[tencrush]

DO IT DO IT DO IT.

[santousha.livejournal.com]

Do EEEEEEEEEEEEEET!

My truthiness

[santousha.livejournal.com]

Obviously, there's that other explanation doing the rounds that RTD fridged Ianto because GDL turned him down. Sexually.
TRUFAX

It totes happen, I was there!

Re: My truthiness

[tencrush]

Do tell.

[aviv-b.livejournal.com]

Word!
Yeah, I got fooled by the website (which I was soo confused by that video).

In memory of Ianto, I'm sending a donation to the Council for Better Understanding between Illegal Aliens and Gays.

[lorelei-chase.livejournal.com]

I'd just ilke to say a warm hello to those of you that have friended me in the past week because of woe or anger or whatever. It's a nice change from those of you who have defriended me for not properly APPRECIATING ART. Welcome. Let's get drunk.

Let's get drunk together? Awesome.

You see, maybe that's what old Rusty should have done to get into GDL's pants rather than throw his toys out of the pram ... but I'm sensing there's not enough whisky in the world for that to happen ;-)

[fide-et-spe.livejournal.com]

God you know the sex thing occurred to me as well. Casting couch and all that. I just thought it was my own cynicism working overtime as I wondered about with RTD's book at the time. I am amazed to hear that others thought it as well. Wouldn't be the first time.

[antelope-writes.livejournal.com]

I haven't friended you out of angst in the last 3 weeks, nor have I defriended you for not appreciating art in the last two years.

Can we get drunk anyway?

[tencrush]

*drunkenly cries on your shoulder*
I'm actually still quite upset, but I'm hiding it reasonably well.

DEWEY DEFEATS TRUMAN

[kateorman.livejournal.com]

Eheu! I fear I fell into the same trap as fandom generally: thinking that the part of the show I was most interested in was what the show was about. (If you can't remember what "Adrift" was actually about then you know whereof I speak.) No matter how hard we may ship, we're not the "core audience", and Jack/Ianto was not what defined Torchwood. Which said, if there's a S4, there had better be plenty of teh gay. (And not just for us slash puppies, either. Let's have some non-evil, non-dead dykes yey.)