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SHE'S HIS FUCKING WIFE!!

She's not Rose, she's not Jenny, she's not the Rani, she's not Romana. River Song is the Doctor's wife from the future. She's going to die in the next episode. He will spend all that time with her, doing all that funstuff in her diary, knowing precisely how and when she will inevitably die.

Paradoxes, inevitability, fate, curse of a Time Lord... Jesus Christ to hear fandom talking you'd think they'd never seen a Moffat episode before.

EDITED TO ADD SOMETHING I POSTED IN THE COMMENTS: I don't understand what everyone's so worked up about, she's not the next companion, she's his lover/wife from some point in the future. We'll more than likely never see her again. It's about time travel and the weirdness involved. It's about the Doctor losing the woman he loves, BEFORE HE LOVES HER. It's about her dying in the arms of a man WHO DOESN'T LOVE HER YET. It's a timey-wimey Moffat story, nothing more.

Moffat's apparent fascination with the mechanics of time travel make me tremendously excited about his tenure as boss. I think if Moffat does go for any sort of overriding story arc, it will be far more clever than Rusty's namechecking "Torchwood" every bloody episode, and will probably deal with the same themes he seems so fond of, fixed history, inevitability of events, consequences of past and future actions. I'm excited about Moffat, really I am.

Date: 2008-06-03 05:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vinylsigns.livejournal.com
I don't know about a lot of people, but I personally don't like her for a couple reasons, astoundingly enough, not because I'm in the ZOMG ROSE/DOCTOR OTP 4EVAR camp (because I'm not. Though I like the pairing, I can deal with pretty much any non-squicky combo fandom can throw at me)

It's pretty much because of huge breaks in logic; I know it's all wibbly-wobbly, but I hate being dropped in the middle of a relationship and being expected to have some sort of emotional resonance with it when A) it's basically a lifted storyline and B) I can really only take comfort in the fact that the Doctor is just as bewildered at her forwardness as we are.

Speaking of her behavior, it strikes me that if she really was following the Doctor's rules on timelines, she wouldn't continue to make advances on him, esp. after she realizes he hasn't met her yet. Couple that with the fact that she keeps dropping hints like that and with the sonic screwdriver then having the gall to say "No, you no can has--is spoilers" is just plain stupid and irresponsible. And oh yeah, the total anvil-like subtlety with Donna. Yeah. Real smooth, River.

I do realize that this could all just be for added dramatic effect, but I think it could be handled so much better.

Date: 2008-06-03 06:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] problematique.livejournal.com
thank you
I don't like the character and don't wish for the wife stuff to not be true because of shipping or whatever. I just feel as if this whole thing has not be handled very well at all.

Romance in general in Nu!Who has not been handled well and it's just really getting to me and I want it to stop.

Date: 2008-06-03 06:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lo0o0ony-lauren.livejournal.com
Just dropping in from who_daily to say, yeah, that's exactly how I feel as well.

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