See... the thing is...

[tencrush]

When you DECLINE my request to join the savecoffeeboy community, a request I submitted in order to attempt to find out if this MASSIVE PDF was an official document of yours, or a personal project, you really make yourselves look like you're up to something if not suspicious, at the least really rather bordering on the crazy side.

I've PM'd you guys and I've mailed you, whoever's in charge of this document:

TAKE MY NAME, MY WORDS, MY COMMUNITY, MY PONY CAMPAIGN AND MY IMAGES OUT OF YOUR GARGANTUAN FILE OF BATSHIT. I am not affiliated with your insanity.

Comments

[tigercheetah.livejournal.com]

I'm another Ianto fan who would have been delighted to see him in a new relationship, even with a female character, shock horror. I used to get annoyed at the lack of Ianto/OFC fanfic out there, though I do enjoy Jack/Ianto fanfic if its well written and doesn't feature woobie Ianto.

I can't believe anyone thinks RTD will bring Ianto back because of a fan campaign. Only if Russell wakes up one morning with an ache in his heart will that happen - and we're talking about the man who killed Jack's grandson and who's going to kill Doc Ten on New Years Day - what a nice way to start the new year, thanks Russell. :)

BTW - If Gareth knew the full extent of this campaign, I'd think he'd be quite embarassed. He's already said in a radio interview that whilst he's flattered, he also finds it "creepy" which shows that he does care how fans behave over him.

Mind you, it's nothing new. Sir Arthur Conon-Doyle was pestered into bringing Sherlock Holmes back from the dead after Moriorty killed him and that was how many years ago? Fan obsession is what the film 'Misery' was about.

[fide-et-spe.livejournal.com]

I think the thing is that fan campaigns have worked on other occasions, but it isn't really a tradition here, and RTD is the wrong person. Although I guess the BBC do have the final say. It could be like Dr Polaski, and Ianto is bought back to season 5.

Or like Sherlock Holmes, just make some more shows set pre CoE. I would love some more set pre exit wounds as well...

I hate that it's got to the point of creepiness, and I hate that GDL has been dragged into it in that book. I think it's a low blow. The whole thing was unnecessary anyhow, they didn't need to rub it in any more, and could have achieved more with a little summary of the fund raising, and a tally of how many letters, coffee or whatever they have sent. Not that I think that is necessary.

I love Jack/Ianto, and I do feel that it is a terrible shame it had such wasted potential. I probably wouldn't have kept watching S1 if it weren't for the chemistry between them, but I would have kept watching for Ianto, no matter what happened.

[tigercheetah.livejournal.com]

If it had been possible for Jack to really fall in love with Ianto, I would have loved their relationship but it's been obvious for a while that Ianto would never be anything more than another passing lover for Jack, at least as far as the producers were concerned. I do question the writers dragging the Jack/Ianto thing out over the course of three series though, as it made their relationship seem more serious than it was intended to be.

You're right that the BBC are less inclined to do something because of a fan campaign than US networks. RTD will only ever bring Ianto back if he personally thinks its a good idea.

[fide-et-spe.livejournal.com]

I think that we are meant to see the relationship as serious, and RTD and Euros Lynne genuinely believed that they were telling a beautiful love story. However RTD has a rather skewed idea of love and the equality of relationships and I think that is what ended up being played out. He likes to leave it to the end to show any sort of emotion from his distant hero, such as The Doctor with Rose, or Jack in the death scene, because otherwise it all has to be in subtext. I do think that the radio plays were a much warmer view of them, as are some of the books. (which I don't think are necessarily canon, the plays are though. )

Thing is, RTD no longer works for the BBC. Yet he is spouting about season 4. I'm still very dubious about it all. I imagine the BBC aren't really certain of anything with a new government coming, and the Tories are hardly friendly to them.