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  • Gwen actually leapt out of the ambulance, two guns blazing. That was AWESOME! And then Ianto ran away from what was obviously the world's worst sniper. I mean, seriously.

  • Ianto's family ARE LOVE. I have never witnessed such a subtly written, complex set of characters. This means, of course, that Ianto will die and we will not get to keep them. Obviously.

  • Okay, the broken leg thing, again, was a subtle bit of characterisation, especially him and his sister's conversation about it and what it was that happened exactly. If I see people running with it and shouting OMGABUSE, and writing loads of fic where Ianto's childabusetrauma is healed by Jack's magicalhealingcock, I will VOMIT. That's NOT what was said. He pushed him too hard, that's a different thing. I'll have some proper thoughts about this revelation later on, I'm sure, I'm still working through it in my mind.

  • FUCK YOU ALL and your negativity, I STILL RLY LIKE LOIS. And I want to keep her. The fact that she's a PA, though, makes me fear we may well be keeping her so she can replace a deaded Ianto. Then again, Ianto's like proper gun-toting Torchwood now, so maybe it'll be okay.

  • BTW, if Ianto with that HUGE GUN is a publicity shot ruse I shall be most disappointed. I want to see this big gun.

  • What I DON'T want to see, ever again, is Jack naked.

  • Gwen and Rhys are adorable and excellent together, and I hope this teamwork a la Meat and The Dead Line continues. Contrary to popular opinion, I don't think Gwen's baby is a goner, either. I think it'll be just fine. And Rhys' never ending quest for food is making me lol.

  • You know how I think Ianto's a HARDASS, and I once postulated my various reasons why if Ianto and Jack played Dom/sub games, Jack would totally be the hyperenthused "YEAH! BRING IT ON!" sub and Ianto would be the restrained and meticulous Dom? You remember how often I've said that? Yeah? So Ianto goes and rescues Jack by formulating a carefully thought-through plan that involves parking his car in a quarry (We're in a quarry!!), presumably making his way back on foot, procuring a JCB, taking out a wall and dropping concrete!Jack into said quarry to free him from his concrete prison. All in all very nice, yes. BUT... BUT BUT BUT, before doing so Ianto makes sure that he's wearing a hard hat and a high visibility builder's jacket, because even in the heat and passion of the moment of heroically saving one's lover from concretey doom SAFETY IS STLL PARAMOUNT, YO. THIS, DUDES. This. Thisthisthis. I have no words about how much I loved this bit of characterisation. No words.

  • I wish I wasn't spoiled for what the 456 looks like. Boo.

  • Yet again, as with the Dead Line, I'm not quite sure how much of my love for this episode (WHICH IS MASSIVE) is based around the fact that Jack wasn't in it much. It saddens me to realise that I like Torchwood more when there's FAR LESS Jack.


Date: 2009-07-08 07:04 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Totally agree with your post mate. So glad i avoided spoilers, this months TW mag is still in its wrapper! Much self restraint but worth it. Badass Ianto, check. Hungry Rhys, check. Jack naked? oh clash of skin tones from face to neck on that one. Much love to all the TW fans, shelley

Date: 2009-07-08 07:07 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jo02
No mention of "WE WANT A PONY!" ?
Best scene. Ever.

Date: 2009-07-08 11:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] santousha.livejournal.com
totally. I love Frobisher's kids.

Date: 2009-07-08 08:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kurthummel.livejournal.com
You forgot to mention Ianto's fabulous "I'm going to cliff Jack into a quarry!" boots.

Date: 2009-07-08 08:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kurthummel.livejournal.com
YOU BET YOUR ASS HE WAS. THIS IS IANTO FUCKING JONES, NOT SOME AMATEUR.

Spoilerific yet convenient image here.

Date: 2009-07-08 08:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kurthummel.livejournal.com
They just need to patent that Ianto Jones paper doll (and what a brute paper doll it would be) already.

Date: 2009-07-08 09:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] louisema.livejournal.com
Yes to meticulous!Dom!Ianto. So yes. With his WD-40 (yes, I still have that fic-rec of yours bookmarked, just in case of a moment of...well, just in case.)

After Ep. 1, I was about 99% sure that either Rhys or UnbornBaby would die by ep.5. I am less sure now.

I liked "he pushed me too hard. He always did." Because now Ianto pushes HIMSELF too hard, doesn't he, really? With the three-piece suits and the KNOWING EVERYTHING and the meticulous!Dom!Ianto...*nods meaningfully, not quite sure what she's on about*

Yeah I am beginning to realise how much more I tend to like Jack-free-episodes. Encase him in concrete, again, and let's have the Ianto-Gwen-and-Rhys-show, please.

...you know how Jack rebuilt himself from "an arm, a leg, and half a head"? Well...if you have a whole person, and you take away an arm, a leg and half a head, you're left with a torso, an arm, a leg and half a head. If he can rebuild from an arm, a leg and half a head...are you seeing where I'm going with this? I will scream if there is another Jack wandering around now. I will scream if there is not. We do not need two Jacks. I also don't want them contradicting themselves in the space of a single week.

Date: 2009-07-08 05:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] urnssadomen.livejournal.com
Someone mentioned that it might be more like a "reset" process instead of regrowing, which I agree was a more plausible and fitting idea toward "a fixed point in time, a fact".

Date: 2009-07-08 10:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] takenatwork.livejournal.com
I really thought the comic-book superhero type death and resurrection of Jack would overshadow this episode and spoil it, but no. The balance of the very real Gwen and Rhys baby moment and Ianto's backstory, kept it firmly rooted in reality. I liked that, well written and directed.

I love Ianto's family, because they're so like mine and the estate is like one I grew up on, it's so nice for them not to be alcoholic junkies (god, does that make me sound bitter, it's not meant to, it's the usual TV stereotype). I just love them.

I'd like for the 3 of them (plus Rhys) to work together throughout the next episode, because I'd like to see if it could work for S4 or if they need new members, was it right to lose Tosh and Owen, those sorts of questions, but I doubt that will happen.

Date: 2009-07-08 12:28 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shighola.livejournal.com
You know how I think Ianto's a HARDASS, and I once postulated my various reasons why if Ianto and Jack played Dom/sub games, Jack would totally be the hyperenthused "YEAH! BRING IT ON!" sub and Ianto would be the restrained and meticulous Dom? You remember how often I've said that? Yeah? So Ianto goes and rescues Jack by formulating a carefully thought-through plan that involves parking his car in a quarry (We're in a quarry!!), presumably making his way back on foot, procuring a JCB, taking out a wall and dropping concrete!Jack into said quarry to free him from his concrete prison. All in all very nice, yes. BUT... BUT BUT BUT, before doing so Ianto makes sure that he's wearing a hard hat and a high visibility builder's jacket, because even in the heat and passion of the moment of heroically saving one's lover from concretey doom SAFETY IS STLL PARAMOUNT, YO. THIS, DUDES. This. Thisthisthis. I have no words about how much I loved this bit of characterisation. No words.

This! THIS. EXACTLY.

Date: 2009-07-08 01:17 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
if you cut jack exactly in half could you create two immortal jacks? Idf you kept doing it could you make an invincible army? Hmm.

Date: 2009-07-08 01:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tigercheetah.livejournal.com
I think Gwen has signed Lois's death warrant with the words "hey, if you ever need a job, come and join Torchwood" oops!

Ianto's family are love. Katy Wix is great as Rhiannon.

Date: 2009-07-08 03:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] radiant-pip.livejournal.com
Gwen, that's not really an enticing offer considering you're on the run for your lives and she's footing the bill!

ITA about Ianto's family. Ianto really should've given his big sis a hug. Awww...but at least he said thanks...eventually. ;)

Ianto himself was awesome. His amazing super-power of invisibility was really in top form. That can only explain why the sniper was such a crap shot! I mean really...

Date: 2009-07-08 02:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] forgiveninasong.livejournal.com
I still actually really really hate Gwen? Like...I can't describe it. I feel like writing some huge-fuck-off-meta about how if you like Ianto, you're NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE A NEGATIVE OPINION OF GWEN EVER EVER EVER. Ffs, it's doing my head in!

I fucking LOVED how Badass Ianto was in the JCB! Also, mirroring of Countrycide with that, anyone?

OMG so fucking badass.

Also, I bloody love being totally unspoiled!

Date: 2009-07-08 02:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cionaudha.livejournal.com
The Force-10 Gale of Awesome that is Ianto Fucking Jones is making me wet.

Is there anything about this season that I don't love?

But one question remains: we've seen Naked!Owen, Naked!Rhys, and Naked!Jack. One name is glaringly absent from this list. It needs to be seen, in bed, with Jack, in action.

Date: 2009-07-08 03:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] radiant-pip.livejournal.com
I was watching full screen and it was blurry (which I think I should be thankful for), but didn't we also get Naked!Ianto'sBrother-In-Law? Which just doesn't count. So, yeah, we definitely need to get some good Naked!Ianto at some point.

Date: 2009-07-08 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] travellingone.livejournal.com
Yup, we got Naked!BiL.

Date: 2009-07-08 05:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] satanassa.livejournal.com
Naked b-i-l was hilarious when he said that they were unlikely to find Ianto in his bed!

Date: 2009-07-08 04:22 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dani_the_girl
I think they should take Lois on to be Gwen's "PA" :)

Date: 2009-07-08 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dividedloyalty.livejournal.com
I love this season so far. To bloody pieces.

But where is Myfawny?

Date: 2009-07-08 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] radiant-pip.livejournal.com
She's keeping guard of Jack's spare coat.

Date: 2009-07-08 05:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] urnssadomen.livejournal.com
"Gwen actually leapt out of the ambulance, two guns blazing. That was AWESOME! "
When I saw it in trailer, I wasn't impressed. It was like a bed John-Wu-Rip-off. But when it was put into context, her action actually made perfect sense (timing might be a bit off... might be).

"And then Ianto ran away from what was obviously the world's worst sniper."
Especially Gareth wasn't running that fast... actually I can do w/o seeing that running...

"If I see people running with it and shouting OMGABUSE, and writing loads of fic where Ianto's childabusetrauma is healed by Jack's magicalhealingcock, I will VOMIT. "
You are the second person I saw expecting people do shitty things like that. Just the thought of it makes me want to vomit. But I can totally believe some people will write that...uhr...

"FUCK YOU ALL and your negativity, I STILL RLY LIKE LOIS. And I want to keep her. The fact that she's a PA, though, makes me fear we may well be keeping her so she can replace a deaded Ianto. Then again, Ianto's like proper gun-toting Torchwood now, so maybe it'll be okay. "
My thoughts exactly, except the first part. I know she's spunky, fun, cute and competent and not... but I like my women mature, slutty!sexy, trigger happy and insane, thank you very much. On the other hand, she might be the one end up dead. I like her, I do, really... she irritate me much less after yesterday. However, if one PA must go, I will push her off the cliff myself, even though I do like her, honest to god, I do...

"What I DON'T want to see, ever again, is Jack naked."
Actually when I rewatch that ep, it was not too bad, but the fist time I saw it, I wanted to cry... JB in his 20s was looked very good naked on stage... but after 20yrs, they really should think again before strip him naked. BTW, did you see a cock? I don't think I saw a cock, just a huge black shadow, which looked like hair... which totally debunk the past speculation that Jack's lack of body hair... since the half nudity scene in Small World.

"Yet again, as with the Dead Line, I'm not quite sure how much of my love for this episode (WHICH IS MASSIVE) is based around the fact that Jack wasn't in it much. It saddens me to realise that I like Torchwood more when there's FAR LESS Jack."
I originally thought I favored this one over Day One was due to Gwen is finally come to her own. Then I realized, the reason she appeared incompetent in the past was actually greatly caused by Jack's presence. No Jack = Gwen being cool. A very sad notion, b/c I'm not sure I will actually pick proper gay couple over proper action girl.

Date: 2009-07-08 05:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] urnssadomen.livejournal.com
Speak of Small World, are they telling us that Jack Harkness actually shaves/wax his underarm hair... Errr... weird much? for a military kind of guy...

Date: 2009-07-08 07:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nostalgia-lj.livejournal.com
Jack has no body hair, because people in the future are all bald. His head hair is a wig and his eyebrows are drawn on. See also: Song, River (Baldness)

Date: 2009-07-10 05:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] urnssadomen.livejournal.com
Woooo~~~ Neo much?

Date: 2009-07-08 06:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] satanassa.livejournal.com
I think Agent Johnson is delightfully evil and I sure hope she survives the series!

Hmmmmm....

Date: 2009-07-08 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phaedra4real.livejournal.com
Child-abuse-trama and magical-healing-cock ..... that's just a story waiting to happen!

Can't wait till it hits the States.

Re: Hmmmmm....

Date: 2009-07-09 11:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kateorman.livejournal.com
*ponders writing a fic in which there is psychologically significant confusion between Jack's member and Ianto's leg*

Date: 2009-07-09 11:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kateorman.livejournal.com
Barrowman's love handles are a thing of beauty and a joy forever. :D

Date: 2009-07-09 12:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kateorman.livejournal.com
PLEASE DO NOT ADJUST YOUR SET

Date: 2009-07-09 10:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] virginhuntress.livejournal.com
1. This season has made me go from feeling apathy towards Gwen to FUCKING LOVING HER badass ways. Shooting that guy in the foot? Yeah, LOVE.

2. Oh I truly adore Ianto's family. They remind me of all the families I knew growing up in neighborhood I grew up in. Yeah, they're ghetto, but they understand the meaning of fucking BEING there and helping each other out.

3. Lois is growing on me. The first episode was too Mary Sue for me, but she's really rounding out as a believable character in the following eps.

4. Team Wales FTFW.

5. Yeah, less Jack equals better dynamic, and that makes me sad.

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