And seriously, guys...

[tencrush]

SHE'S HIS FUCKING WIFE!!

She's not Rose, she's not Jenny, she's not the Rani, she's not Romana. River Song is the Doctor's wife from the future. She's going to die in the next episode. He will spend all that time with her, doing all that funstuff in her diary, knowing precisely how and when she will inevitably die.

Paradoxes, inevitability, fate, curse of a Time Lord... Jesus Christ to hear fandom talking you'd think they'd never seen a Moffat episode before.

EDITED TO ADD SOMETHING I POSTED IN THE COMMENTS: I don't understand what everyone's so worked up about, she's not the next companion, she's his lover/wife from some point in the future. We'll more than likely never see her again. It's about time travel and the weirdness involved. It's about the Doctor losing the woman he loves, BEFORE HE LOVES HER. It's about her dying in the arms of a man WHO DOESN'T LOVE HER YET. It's a timey-wimey Moffat story, nothing more.

Moffat's apparent fascination with the mechanics of time travel make me tremendously excited about his tenure as boss. I think if Moffat does go for any sort of overriding story arc, it will be far more clever than Rusty's namechecking "Torchwood" every bloody episode, and will probably deal with the same themes he seems so fond of, fixed history, inevitability of events, consequences of past and future actions. I'm excited about Moffat, really I am.

Comments

[lightfromlight.livejournal.com]

I wish it were something else, and I hope that this speculation is wrong, but the wife/lover thing seems like the most logical explanation.

[hotchellerae.livejournal.com]

I agree, but I think it's disrespectful to the other companions that appeared in this series to give us River Song and then take her away for however long. Next series isn't really a series. It's just a couple of special episodes, you know? It's just confusing and complicated and part of me thinks Moffat wanted it this way to keep us talking about these spoilers as opposed to those for the finale.

[lightfromlight.livejournal.com]

The timeline could become messed up enough that now their relationship never happens. A lot can happen in the next few episodes.

[tencrush]

No. that's not how Moffat works, that's a Russell solution. What happens in that book has happened, full stop. Her dying now doesn't stop any of that happening, in fact it probably even causes it to happen in the first place. Whenever it is that it happens, which, like a said, could be a century from now. Or two.

[nostalgia-lj.livejournal.com]

I think it'll unhappen out of her love for the Doctor.

[tencrush]

She doesn't have to come back at any point in the near future. She could be his wife 100 years from now in his timeline.

[descrime.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I don't get why people are worried that she'll be the next companion. Moffat went out of his way to comment on how much younger the Doctor looked, which seemed to me to be a shout out to fandom that they didn't need to worry about her being the Companion in season 5.

I love the idea that this meeting actually causes they're eventual relationship because I can see the Doctor avoiding her for a century or two out of sheer bloody-mindedness, but then his curiosity will get the better of him and he'll pop in to visit her and find her kind of interesting and then he'll leave and then he'll wonder so he'll come back to see if he missed something and the cycle will repeat till eventually they fall in love and get married.

[misterbill.livejournal.com]

[quote]... till eventually they fall in love and get married.[/quote]

And most probably from the Doctor's point to view the marriage ceremony will be the last time he ever sees her...

[leoniedelt.livejournal.com]

And when they 'fall in love and get married' I'll puke, and stop watching the show.

[sm-droid.livejournal.com]

thats the problem though, if it isnt handled right it'll cause real continuity problems and limit future seasons. Unless theres a big jump in time to after the Doctors been with her I cant see it working (a problem that the Valeyard may also cause when it gets to the 12th regeneration). It'll have to take place during DTs time as well because thats the incarntion River Song recognizes.

[nostalgia-lj.livejournal.com]

I don't think it's dissing the other companions as long as she's not a companion. And the companion role is messed up this year enough that something this weird doesn't make a noticeable dent.