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tencrushThis sort of thing annoys me on many, many levels:
(And it's not because of the blue light = weasel thing that we weren't going to do anymore, remember BBC?)
It's been reasonably well established by now that this sort of scene really paints a pretty bad picture of team Ten'n'Rose as smug, insular, exclusionist and generally cliquey and annoying. And that is a bad thing. What bugs me about it though, is the reason it's there in the first place. There have been scenes like this before, where the Doctor and Rose reminisce about some superfun adventure we haven't had the privilege of witnessing, and they really, really grate on me. They are obviously written to convey a closeness and a shared history that is supposed to make us understand and forgive them their cliqueyness and insularity. For some reason though, all scenes like this do for me is remind me that, apart from all the superfun and dangerous adventures we've witnessed with Doc'n'Rose, where no one ever had enough downtime to have a conversation about, say, other companions, or regeneration, or being able to use a time machine to go see Ian Dury, there have been quite liderally dozens upon dozens more superfun and dangerous adventures we haven't seen where no one ever had enough downtime to mention regeneration, companions, the G word that shall not be mentioned, children, grandchildren, UNIT, cybermen, daleks etc etc blah blah blah. And that grates, because suddenly, here, we do have enough downtime to annoy Mickey with tales of whatever the hell they were talking about (which I can't remember, something about some woman who went all freaky deaky, and no I'm not watching the episode again to find out, because I'm not ever watching this episode again full stop), but apparently that sort of relaxy conversation only ever happens when there are other people in the room/TARDIS, leading me to believe that when it's just the Doctor and Rose and no one else, they spend what little relaxy downtime they have gushing about how great they are together, and individually, and talking of little else (see also the opening scene of New Earth). Or she wouldn't be so clueless about his life. Would she? If she's so goddamned special, why doesn't he tell her stuff? Am I missing something?
I know I'm probably just being overly analytical because I h8 Rose.
Either that or I h8 Rose because I have become overly analytical.
I can't work out which.
(And it's not because of the blue light = weasel thing that we weren't going to do anymore, remember BBC?)
It's been reasonably well established by now that this sort of scene really paints a pretty bad picture of team Ten'n'Rose as smug, insular, exclusionist and generally cliquey and annoying. And that is a bad thing. What bugs me about it though, is the reason it's there in the first place. There have been scenes like this before, where the Doctor and Rose reminisce about some superfun adventure we haven't had the privilege of witnessing, and they really, really grate on me. They are obviously written to convey a closeness and a shared history that is supposed to make us understand and forgive them their cliqueyness and insularity. For some reason though, all scenes like this do for me is remind me that, apart from all the superfun and dangerous adventures we've witnessed with Doc'n'Rose, where no one ever had enough downtime to have a conversation about, say, other companions, or regeneration, or being able to use a time machine to go see Ian Dury, there have been quite liderally dozens upon dozens more superfun and dangerous adventures we haven't seen where no one ever had enough downtime to mention regeneration, companions, the G word that shall not be mentioned, children, grandchildren, UNIT, cybermen, daleks etc etc blah blah blah. And that grates, because suddenly, here, we do have enough downtime to annoy Mickey with tales of whatever the hell they were talking about (which I can't remember, something about some woman who went all freaky deaky, and no I'm not watching the episode again to find out, because I'm not ever watching this episode again full stop), but apparently that sort of relaxy conversation only ever happens when there are other people in the room/TARDIS, leading me to believe that when it's just the Doctor and Rose and no one else, they spend what little relaxy downtime they have gushing about how great they are together, and individually, and talking of little else (see also the opening scene of New Earth). Or she wouldn't be so clueless about his life. Would she? If she's so goddamned special, why doesn't he tell her stuff? Am I missing something?
I know I'm probably just being overly analytical because I h8 Rose.
Either that or I h8 Rose because I have become overly analytical.
I can't work out which.
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Date: 2006-05-17 01:59 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-05-17 02:06 pm (UTC)I knew I could trap you with my gay agenda.
I am so full of fanalysis, my cup runneth over, and it's your fault.
I love you too.
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Date: 2006-05-17 02:14 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-05-17 02:12 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-05-17 02:50 pm (UTC)Because it leaves us plenty of space to write fic where, say, the Doctor and Mickey slip off for a quiet one and Rose walks in on them and is completely dumbfounded 'cos she thought he didn't like Mickey, and he's like 'Shows what you know, blondie.'
As long as they don't fill in the gaps, we can have all sorts of evil fun with them! ;)
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Date: 2006-05-17 02:55 pm (UTC)What's evil about bumsex? It's all good, yo.
Omnisexual and that.
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Date: 2006-05-17 03:02 pm (UTC)Hehe. I said balls.
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Date: 2006-05-17 03:07 pm (UTC)Stop posting that avatar in my journal, please. It makes me queasy.
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Date: 2006-05-17 03:13 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-05-17 03:16 pm (UTC)It had only just gone away.
I missed that suit in RotC. The tux didn't do it for me. Maybe that's the only reason I disliked the episode so. Perhaps I am just shallow like that.
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Date: 2006-05-17 03:24 pm (UTC)Maybe they put him in different clothes so we can have a scene of him taking them off? *hopes*
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Date: 2006-05-17 03:28 pm (UTC)Perhaps.
*hopes along*