Ummm... spoilers, don't read. Well, not really...

[tencrush]

I liked Wilf?

That was essentially 60 mins of buildup to a really bad pun about the Master race, Inorite? And women are all batshit when there's pretty, charismatic, powerful, evil mens to be resurrecting. Kind of like a coven. Crazy wimmins, they're all the same.

The Confidential is now telling me how wonderful Trinity Wells is. I think that's to distract me from the Evil Black People what were in the episode.

I didn't like it much, can you tell? It made no sense. At all. And I still don't understand why the Master can fly.

If this is spoilers then, yeah, sorry dudes.

Comments

[aresnz.livejournal.com]

No worries. I'll be looking forward to seeing this for myself.


Lori

[gogo-didi.livejournal.com]

I liked Wilf too. The rest... not so much. I'm not really sure why I bother but I'll be here for part 2...

[th-esaurus.livejournal.com]

Maybe I'm tired but none of it made any sense at all? And also it was dreadful.

[tencrush]

No, you're not too tired, it was completely incomprehensible apart from a few conversations with Wilf. The rest was just totally random things happening for no discernible reason and gratuitous and ultimately pointless Ood. They should have ditched the Ood and got Basil Exposition from the Austin Powers films to do that bit.

[siege-ofcahoots.livejournal.com]

So yes, I am wasting bandwidth on downloading this this only to say oi.

[tencrush]

Pretty much. It was completely incomprehensible nonsense. With some fail thrown in and the Master flying around. And then a tedious buildup to a really bad joke. And then... out of nowhere... OMG!!! It ends with a revelation that is supposed to surprise us. Dun DUN DUNNNNN!!! Not.

[satanassa.livejournal.com]

I was falling asleep at some point while watching it. When did Doctor Who turn into Matrix Reloaded? And why did there have to be so many scenes of the Master laughing his 'Muahaha!' laugh?

[tencrush]

I don't know, at one point I seemed to be watching Highlander.

That thing with the Master laughing went on for so long, that I expected it to fizzle out like Dr. Evil's laugh in Austin Powers, with the Master suddenly turning to the other ones and going "okay, that's enough."

[dune-drd.livejournal.com]

Wilf is love. The rest was a bit slow... and I still think Russel will fuck it up by stuffing everything into part two

[caledonius72.livejournal.com]

so many good actors were woefully underused (Alexandra Moen, June Whitfield, Claire Bloom). Perhaps there'll be more meat to go with these potatoes in episode 2.

despite everyone else being fictional, they mention Obama - fail for not keeping everything fictional.

So we're left with Donna, Wilf & the Doctor the only ones on earth that aren't the Master. So Gwen Cooper, Sarah-Jane Smith, Luke Smith, are all Masterised. Oh dear.

The Timelords look like someone's dad who's going to step in and go "Now boys, play nice!".

Comedy old people, evil black people, man!pain in the cafe, timelords appearing out of the woodwork... clutching at predictable straws Mr Davies, pedestrian and confusing.

And I was a bit bitter when Mr Naismith explained where he got the McGuffin from. "After the fall of Torchwood, I aquired it" and I thought "Which one? London or Cardiff?"

And where was unexpectedly Naked!Jack?

[siege-ofcahoots.livejournal.com]

No, really, you do not want to get me started. There has to be a bottle of wine around here somewhere...

[fallsaddles.livejournal.com]

The Timelords look like someone's dad who's going to step in and go "Now boys, play nice!".

Well... exactly? That's essentially what the Time Lords are like. The proper, no-nonsense Time Lords, not the renegade ones, aka the Doctor, the Master, etc.

Whoops, I sort of butted in. Came here via who_daily

[kel-reiley.livejournal.com]

HE'S SPIDERMAN! BUT WITH LIGHTNING BOLTS INSTEAD OF WEBBING!

am i the only one who was surprised by timothy dalton?

[erinnthered.livejournal.com]

Yay for DW related TL;DR!

Pausing with 10 minutes to spare to weigh in so far...no, I'll type this now, finish watching, then hit "send."

The opening was shit. RTD still doesn't get scope, but I do love the idea of the ood/ Donna connection. That was good. That also sets up Wilf. For once, Rusty actually justified something. It's a start. I really liked the Noble clan all around this time. Actual good comedic timing. Who knew?

The BS resurrection of The Master was made up for by Simm, IMHO. I'm now convinced he could sell me beachfront property in Nepal, cause he's selling it like no one else. I mean that literally, of course.

The Obama stuff was such horrible BS. The one thing Obama never promised was an easy solution, so it looks ridiculous. Especially since US=/=UK, and we all sit home on Christmas, including the President. No one would be happy about a Christmas address. Especially all those non-Christians who voted for him. Bad, bad political move in a secular country like ours. Rusty is an idiot. And he knows he has an international audience, and I can't believe at least a few Brits wouldn't get that, so no excuses that it's a British show.

Okay...remember what I said about Rusty not understanding scope? Seriously, why would the Master want a bunch of humans? He's never respected them or cared. Wouldn't he just want Gallifrey back? One he could control? Makes a much better story, and a lot more plausible. Especially after the childhood reminiscence. All that to mess with the Doctor? His insanity didn't justify it, IMO.

All that good set-up, and then drops the ball completely with Donna's memory. That never happened in front of Donna before, so why would she be triggered by it? Wouldn't it just make her remember that first adventure with The Doctor that she still has? Too much too soon.

Yet again, some things right, but way too much horribly wrong. And it was showing potential too. *sigh*

Also, John Simm should have gotten first billing after all that character work he had to do in those costumes and CG. That must've taken a week, at least!

I love Timothy Dalton, and Yay for Gallifrey's return (I thought might Moffat would want it back, if nothing else), but why exactly do the peaceful Gallifreans care about victory and ending time? I'm so sick of RTD taking on things to big for him to understand. Unless he suddenly brought back the Daleks they were fighting off, and I missed it, Gallifreans are a lot bigger than "victories." I have to say, I do want to know what he means by "end of time." Probably won't be as interesting as it could have been, but I do want to know.

And wasn't there a little too much Star Wars prequel Senate to that chamber? Way to rip off an idea there. Any guesses on the ones with hands over their faces? I'm saying Matt Smith is one. Who's the other?

[scifigirl.livejournal.com]

Wilf is amazing. I still can't stand Ten and would really like for him to go DIAF. Along with Rusty. I'm intrigued by the return of the Timelords. It didn't make logical sense. It started strong, went batshit, went stupid, went all John Simm all the time, then finally the very ending gave me a reason to watch part two. I'd like to know why the Timelords came back, otherwise, whatever, I'm so over RTD, can has Moffat now, pls.

But mostly what I took away from this episode is an intense desire to discover why the master can fly. And why he has bleach blond hair. And why Rusty hates black people all the time.

[erinnthered.livejournal.com]

Well, Rusty does like to put 10 in front of big flames. Maybe if someone could give him a good shove backwards...

[erinnthered.livejournal.com]

Okay, I have a batshit prediction, then I'll quit spamming the thread while it's middle of the night for you guys...

Let's say 11 is 1. As in, Matt Smith could be a younger William Hartnell. Let's say The Doctor gets a whole new set of lives, and starts over in his first body, but younger than we remember him. After that, anything goes in terms of who he regenerates into.

It looked like the two people with hands over their faces were a man and a woman. The Doctor and...Elizabeth? She has her hair, and Matt Smith has Hartnell hair...I thought his outfit was an homage to Troughton...still could be...but what if it's an homage to Hartnell too?

They never did establish if Elizabeth was a Time Lord or not. Rusty could be trying to go out making a huge origin story statement while giving Moffat his clean slate.

[takenatwork.livejournal.com]

I've had the night to think about it and I still don't know what I think. It's the actual mechanics of the writing that are so in my face, I just can't see the story. He always likes to have this obscure thread running through and then he hangs the rest of the story on it, but this episode has never looked more like a line of washing. I really don't know what I got from it.

[fide-et-spe.livejournal.com]

Good God it is the most portentous crap. Bernard Cribbins is wonderful, but that's it.

So the Master has become a ninja Voldemort?

[erinnthered.livejournal.com]

I bring you a clip from pt 2. More BS exposition and OTT Dalton from the Deathstar Gallifrey.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiDiQS3JAEM

Not sure how this is supposed to entice me to watch.

Oh, and I totally see the Harry Potter in there too. Waters of Mars was a bit of an Alien ripoff. I wonder how much of the rest of the story and settings we can figure out just from popular books, movies, and TV?

[tencrush]

Holy Crap, can this get more awful?

[furius.livejournal.com]

I don't understand how such a potentially cool cast of characters end up with a ludicrous plot that looked a 12 year old over-consumed on mass-media from the last five years. Or possibly just the Star Wars prequels. Shooting electricity? Really?

The whole thing is ridiculous, including putting the Master rather randomly on a red collar and leash. WTF.

So, what happened to Lucy? And gods, I can't believe this show will be on BBC America with all that...insufferable weirdness about Obama..and the evil black father/daughter.

[rallyemadartep.livejournal.com]

Either the collar and leash was a particular fetish of RTD's, or a shout-out to all the slash-happy fans out there...well, who wouldn't want to put him on a leash? :)

[rallyemadartep.livejournal.com]

On top of it all, they're throwing everyone in to the last episode, not spreading out the grand reunion of all the companions for the grand farewell over 2 episodes. No, everyone goes into one episode. Gah. It just sounds like it'll be episode overload.

Seriously, the only thing I want to see is Donna happy and not brain-explody. Beyond that....meh.

[erinnthered.livejournal.com]

Why am I arguing with Jonathan Blum? Why? The guy has no clue about writing or storytelling, and I should just drop it, but nooooo. I have to go all TL;DR and explain crap to him, which he'll forget tomorrow anyway. Gah!

[aviv-b.livejournal.com]

This American weighing in. Saw it last night.

First, Obama? Christmas Day? Uh, RTD, get on the clue train, the President is not the head of any church and he doesn't make political speeches on Christmas. Obama is not The Queen. Surely even the village idiot could have figured that out. Do you not have access to Da Google?

Everyone is The Master? Even Gwen? Please show us her in part 2, I'm begging you.

I totaly agree with you TenCrush, 90 minute buildup to a lame pun...what a waste.

Amd what's his problem with black people? Either they're evil or they're twits. Donna's new boyfriend is Idiot Mickey reincarnated. Would it be such a stretch for your imagination to have a black person who was intelligent without being a criminal?

I swear if he kills Donna, I will get on a plane to Venice Beach and rip that thing off his face myself. Sigh, guess I better get my plane ticket ready. I've already accepted that Wilf's a gonner, what a treat for the New Year.

I hate to say it, but this made CoE look like a work of genius.

On the plus side, BBCA didn't cut the show (which actually might have been a good thing) and fewer commercial breaks - none of which included Gwenwood promos. But when they had the RTD self-praise-athon (brilliant, its brilliant!!!), that's when I say buh-bye.

[erinnthered.livejournal.com]

First, Obama? Christmas Day? Uh, RTD, get on the clue train, the President is not the head of any church and he doesn't make political speeches on Christmas. Obama is not The Queen. Surely even the village idiot could have figured that out. Do you not have access to Da Google?

You know Obama is geeky enough to have watched this. Somewhere on a beach in Hawaii our President is having a good laugh.