In which I am always right.

[tencrush]

See?

Russell also quashed rumours that a fourth series of Torchwood had been greenlit: “There is nothing definite yet despite what John Barrowman keeps telling everyone. Get down, boy! But we wouldn’t want him any other way. Maybe there'll be something to tell you in the New Year.”

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LOL, Russell, you're the one that keeps pimping this fuck awful idea out every time you open your mouth. Maybe the Beeb told you to tone it down a bit?

Guys: THERE IS NO S4 OF TORCHWOOD.

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[tencrush]

The main problem I have with a S4 is the way Jack left, and the fact that I think it will be glossed over in the same way 2000 years underground was glossed over. I'll be pleasantly surprised if it's not (but then, I still don't think Jack'll be in it if there's a S4), but I reckon it'll be "yeah, bad shit happened, grandson, Ianto, blah, blah, I wandered around being emo for a few hundred years and I'm all better now, sex?"

You know what I mean?

[51stcenturyfox.livejournal.com]

Torchwood is MADE OF PLOTHOLES.

Angst/PTSD aside, Jack's coat should have been in tatters after his time underground. Ridic.

I think Jack will be in a S4, so I'll take that bet. And you're probably right about the limited emo. But... he's had a wife and a former wife die on him, and Estelle, and God knows how many other people. And it's arguable that Tosh and Owen's deaths were his fault since he recruited them. So I just don't get how he could bounce back from those and not from Ianto and Steven, after x period of time.

If he couldn't bounce back from others' deaths, he'd have been in a permanent catatonic state from emotional freakout long before this.

I wish we had the old team back, but I'll take a new team + Jack and some monster-of-the-week episodes + a greater threat arc. I only really care because I miss the X-Files and need a sci-fi fandom. (Though I'll be following Doctor Who, too.)

[coldwater1010.livejournal.com]

"I think Jack will be in a S4, so I'll take that bet. And you're probably right about the limited emo. But... he's had a wife and a former wife die on him, and Estelle, and God knows how many other people. And it's arguable that Tosh and Owen's deaths were his fault since he recruited them. So I just don't get how he could bounce back from those and not from Ianto and Steven, after x period of time."

If it were just Ianto I'd agree for a number of reasons (although since they wanted us to suddenly believe that Ianto's death was a big enough reason to turn Jack into a grandchild killing shell of his former self then personally I'd like some indication that he didn't just get over it the minute the plot no longer required him for that role), but the Stephen thing. I can't see how he just 'gets over' that especially for someone who still felt guilty some 150 + years just for accidentally dropping his brother's hand. Not to mention the compounded effect it presumably had on his daughter unless they're going to suggest she's over it too or simply pretend she never really existed. So I would definitely expect some sort of ongoing fallout especially since they seem to want to be taken seriously these days.

I think I could handle the plotholes in the first two seasons because I never felt I was required to take any of it all that seriously. So a super secret organisation that was so secret it has to retcon its people when they leave, but apparently has one of the laziest vetting processes I've ever seen for an agency like this, that hires people off the street or because the man in charge fancies them held a perverse kind of goofy charm even if I did have to suspend my disbelief a bit too often, but Jack being buried for 2,000 years and suffering little to no ill-effects was definitely when the love began to die and then s3 with its sledge hammer approach to all things Jack sadly finished it off. Of course wholesale character killing in lieu of meaningful/ consistent character development didn't help either.

[51stcenturyfox.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I don't expect him to just get over Steven either -- however, I think he was cognizant of why he was doing it at the time (I totally hated this plot direction - I would have had Clem snap back to reality and sacrifice himself to save the children and stop his own misery. Sad too, but logical, since he had a connection to the 456.)

Owen's death had a reasonable arc/purpose. Tosh and Ianto were gratuitous, IMO. Suzie did go in the first episode, so I think one team loss per series sort of... isn't actually that unexpected for the tone set at the start. TW has always been a mix of crackaliciousness and angst, to me.

[as1mplegirl.livejournal.com]

If it were just Ianto I'd agree for a number of reasons (although since they wanted us to suddenly believe that Ianto's death was a big enough reason to turn Jack into a grandchild killing shell of his former self then personally I'd like some indication that he didn't just get over it the minute the plot no longer required him for that role),

Ha ha. They didn't have any indication of that he'd feel that way before the actual death happened. The chance of doing it afterwards? 0 I reckon. I actually think Davies came up with the 'Ianto's death necessary to have Jack kill the grandchild thing' after the event.

[coldwater1010.livejournal.com]

Me too.

[neadods.livejournal.com]

Torchwood is MADE OF PLOTHOLES.

Truer words were never typed.

[off_coloratura]

Angst/PTSD aside, Jack's coat should have been in tatters after his time underground. Ridic.

Industrial. Strength. Scotchgard.

[51stcenturyfox.livejournal.com]

When they dug him up, Gerald and the 1920s team gave him the other Jack's coat, because he'd been in a jerkass mood lately.

Jack: "Hey, where's my coat?"
Gerald: "LOL. Freezer. You can't have it back. Timelines."
Jack: "I hate the 1920s." :(

[kel-reiley.livejournal.com]

The main problem I have with a S4 is the way Jack left, and the fact that I think it will be glossed over in the same way 2000 years underground was glossed over.

which is why i think it would be better if it is a whole new show, all new cast, a couple years after CoE, tw is rebuilt and different - it won't be the old show, but it *could* be good

[nevercheshire.livejournal.com]

I think the length of time between series adds to this, if there is a season 4 there will be what? a year and half between season 3 and 4. Most casual viewer won't even remember what happened so it wouldn't pay to dwell on Jacks recovery.

Of course I prefer to think that the 2,000 years is implicated in Jack's bizzro behavior in COE, there has to be some explanation!