MORE THOUGHTS ON THE ULTIMATE MESSAGE OF DAYS ONE THROUGH FOUR

[tencrush]

We knew this was a retooling of sorts for the show, designed to attract a MASSIVE new and shiny audience, and it has. There are literally MILLIONS of people watching series three, who have NOT seen either series one or two of Torchwood.

And what have these shiny new viewers learned from Children of Earth? Well, see there's these three people in Torchwood, one's like from the future or someting, one's the married pregnant chick and let's just hammer the point home really quite bluntly with neon signs and anvils and such, that one over there? In the suit, see him? IANTO?? IANTO'S THE QUEER ONE.

Have you all got that? Yeah? Good. Right... let's kill the queer one.

Seriously. It's very tasteful, that, Russell. Nicely done.

Comments

[forgiveninasong.livejournal.com]

I just cannot STAND how RTD, as a GAY MAN, can do this to a GAY RELATIONSHIP! I'm bisexual, and I'm fucking outraged that he's done this.

RTD has made it clear LOADS of times that he hates the fans, and I hope that people going to ComicCon in San Diego abuse him, haha.

I just... :( I'm still gutted about this :(

[kateorman.livejournal.com]

That's the other thing that strikes a wrong note with me. Surely teh ghey is one of Torchwood's big selling points? This is the SF show with the two pretty boys getting it on? Why lose that? Ten years ago it'd have been obvious why. But why now?

(Sorry I keep obsessing in your lj, tencrush. It won't quit gnawing at me.)

[tencrush]

None of it makes any sense, Kate, and I think there's things at play that we aren't aware of. If I were to speculate, I'd say that in spite of the reports, JB was actually not on board with a TW S4, and giving him this and tonight's angst effectively makes Jack incapable of being Torchwood's leader. Leaving us with a possibility of a S4, which would essentially be, yes, Rose Tyler: Earth Defender. But with Gwen.

[forgiveninasong.livejournal.com]

JBs comments about this series feeling like a "punishment" somehow make *far* more sense now.

[tencrush]

Don't they just?

[bandgeek01.livejournal.com]

I'm still debating if I'm going to his signing, cause I'll tell him off and be like WTF.

First I'd say why are you here if you hate the fans and 2 tell me why would you kill off a major gay relationship when it's moved to the flagship station?


Nicole

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I've always felt this relationship was underwritten. Compare with the amount of screentime Gwen and Rhys get. Gwen's the female lead yet to most fans Jack's the central character whilst Ianto is a member of the main cast and Rhys is a supporting character.

In my opinion they sidelined the gay relationship in the show. I don't know why. I'm not gay or bi. I don't give a huge amount of thought to gay depictions on screen but I can't help feeling that for all the show talks about fluid sexuality, no big deal yadda yadda they were a bit too gutless when it came down to it to walk the walk and show some depth or development to the relationship. I'm not surprised that people who feel more personally affected by this than me are livid at what's happened. Nor in more general terms that fans feel they've been sold a lemon by TPTB.

[rowanswhimsy.livejournal.com]

but I can't help feeling that for all the show talks about fluid sexuality, no big deal yadda yadda they were a bit too gutless when it came down to it to walk the walk and show some depth or development to the relationship.

Word.

[stlscape.livejournal.com]

I just cannot STAND how RTD, as a GAY MAN, can do this to a GAY RELATIONSHIP!...I'm fucking outraged that he's done this.

Outraged is the word I used, too. And I'm totally straight and have no friends or close acquaintances in a same sex relationship.