Torchwood...

[tencrush]

So...


Jack has a daughter. A grown-up daughter. Why are people making such a fuss over this? Doesn't it really stand to reason that the guy would have procreated at some point in his exceedingly long existence?

Now, guys, I love Ianto, you all know I do, but why does every reaction I've read to this news involve people going "OMG What's Ianto going to have to say about this ??! O_o!!?!1!" Why would Ianto even care that Jack stuck it up some fanny in the swinging sixties (judging from her age)? Why would Ianto knowing or not knowing have any bearing on their relationship? There's a lot Ianto doesn't know about Jack, he doesn't really seem to have a problem with that, surely? And anyway, why is everyone assuming Jack has a daughter that he knew about?

I know what Ianto's going to have to say about this, and it's not "Oh my God you didn't tell me you had a daughter you bastard you don't really love me and want to have my babies I'm leaving you and I'm taking the puppy!!cri!!?11!", rather it's along the same levels of emotional intensity as everything else Ianto has had to say about The Things He Didn't Know About Jack. He's going to say "Oh... Coffee?"

INORITE??

ETA: I'm fucking sick of all the fangirls imposing this weird-arsed hetero, monogamous, full-disclosure, true-love view on this relationship, especially from Ianto's point of view, like it's been stated at some fucking meeting that I didn't attend that Ianto's looking for Jack to provide him with love and marriage and gay puppies in a picket-fenced garden. It hasn't, and for the record, the absolute KING of non-disclosure, secrecy and emotional reserve is IANTO himself. Watch it again. (Yes, I still stand by what I said, and that's that I think Ianto's in love with Jack, or it's certainly been played that way, but SO WHAT? It's beside the point when it comes to what these two want from this relationship.)

ETA AGAIN: So, bearing in mind that Jack is Russell's Doctor-lite in Torchwood, with the emo and the ManPain, this is what will happen: Jack will TELL US (maybe we'll be lucky and he'll tell Ianto in a rare fit of Talking To Ianto About Emotional Things) about his emo and not having a family because it's OMGtoopainful to watch those you love die. Cue daughter he never knew he had and overacted emo. Daughter eventually dies in order to HAMMER HOME the point of the ImmortalManPain for those of us too dim to have got it the first time around. Cue more of Jack's overacted emo after which perhaps he stares into space on a rooftop for a bit. No, having thought about it, then he stares in silence at a picture of her as a baby and her mother. Then he puts the picture away in his locked box of pictures manpain pictures, which is a METAPHOR for his "locked" "box" of "manpain" "pictures" "manpain". GET IT???? YES???? Fin.

Comments

Re: Introducing wild speculation

[kayellr.livejournal.com]

Yes, he was VERY paternal in the wedding ep. A lot of people seemed to see it as sexual attachment/attraction to Gwen, but it seemed to me more like a father who couldn't quite bear to give up his little girl. It also explains how Jack could actually be completely genuine in telling both Gwen and Ianto "I came back for YOU". And his challenging attitude towards Rhys, while at the same time INSISTING that Gwen keep a real life.

Poor Rhys. I'd be terrified if Jack was my in-law!

Re: Introducing wild speculation

[fide-et-spe.livejournal.com]

Yes, I think it is possible and just the sort of thing they would do, certainly I do remember opinion being divided with Jack at the wedding, some saw it as paternal, and clearly some saw it as attraction. I think that is partly the show being a tease, allowing for fan wank and people to hang onto their interpretations, but on the other hand they have had Jack reject Gwen right from the start, and put her with Owen in the first season, when there was no need if they had wanted to develop anything with J/G. That was scuppered with the Owen affair really, unless you killed Rhys and even then allowed some time, it just would never work. (Not to mention that I don't see it working anyhow, no chemistry)

I really think your theory would be fun, the scenes would need to be a flashback though.