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THOUGHTS ABOUT ADRIFT...


  • Ummm... Andy was in it! LOTS! And he called Rhys fat!! Go Andy. After this episode I can quite truthfully say I'd be MORE THAN HAPPY with Andy as a part of Torchwood. It's just Gwen who looks down on him and thinks he's shit. Boo, Gwen, boo.

  • Ah, but there's the rub: ANDY'S IN LOVE WITH GWEN. Why is EVERYONE always in love with Gwen? What on earth does the woman possess??? Please explain it to me. I can't IMAGINE Andy being in love with Gwen. In my ideal world Andy would get it on with Tosh and they would BOTH be TOTALLY HAPPY. Forever. Poor Tosh.

  • Rhys was in it! And being manly! I was indifferent towards Rhys when this season started and now I love him to bits.

  • I actually quite liked this one. The moral being that sometimes Jack does spooky mysterious things which are FOR THE BEST, and sometimes it's perhaps better to just leave him to it.

  • I'm intrigued by Ianto. Again. He obviously knows that Jack does spooky mysterious things, and he knows where he does them. The question is, did Ianto know what they were? In which case, did Ianto and Jack elaborately set Gwen up? Or did Ianto just see in Gwen a handy opportunity to investigate said things behind Jack's back? Either there is more to the relationship than meets the eye, or there is far more to the manwhorespy aspect of Ianto's character than has been revealed. Either way, I'm intrigued.

  • And then there was THAT SCENE. Really, in my mind, two scenes. Scene One involving Gwen walking in on what is quite possibly the most unambiguous sex act I have ever seen on television. Which was, let's face it, played FOR LAUGHS. And it was quite amusing and made me giggle profusely. Handjobs in the Hub, yes, anyone who tries to tell me there's significanty more to this relationship that LULS, weevils and handjobs in the Hub, is WRONG. Having said that, I believe Jack may be more in love with Ianto than I have been giving him credit for. The whole thing reeked of giddy teenage lust, and despite the fact that it didn't, on paper, actually disprove my doubts about there not being any depth to the relationship, the giddy young love aspect actually surprised me. There may yet be more to this kinkfest than meets my jaded eye.

  • How good was that second bit though? I'm talking purely visually here, there was something really horny about Ianto actually PUTTING HIS CLOTHES ON. I couldn't help but think as he slowly hid his manflesh from my probing eyes that he was WANTONLY TEASING US. With smirks and everything. Take that, fangirls! I mock you with my buttons!! Bless.

  • And then Gwen intrudes on the action and immediately Jack goes a bit weird. Again. The threesome joke I could understand, he wasn't offering her a threesome, he knew she wouldn't take him up on it, it was A JOKE, and I didn't find it offensive to her, or to Ianto, or anything like that. (It's the sort of remark I'd normally pounce on as PROOF JACK DOESN'T LOVE HIM, but I'm not so sure anymore) But, having said that, his cocky attitude towards her and the fact that he didn't even bother doing his trousers up? Either he's flaunting what she's missing at her, or he's just being INCREDIBLY RUDE. Either way, way to look like a bit of a dick again, Jack. What was up with that?

  • The one week later bit? The woman whose life was effectively RUINED by Gwen? That really upset me and I kept hoping Ianto would ring her doorbell with a big, frothy retcon milkshake. And that didn't happen, which made me sad. I was actually genuinely sad for her. Downer.

  • Pie status: undecided, perhaps a slight pie resurgence here and there.



All in all, a solid episode and one of my favourites so far.

ETA: JUST REALISED THOUGH: WTF??? Jack wears PANTS??? That just seems so... unlikely to me.

Date: 2008-03-20 09:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erinnthered.livejournal.com
Did you catch Jack getting ready for his date...I mean, weevil hunting...with Ianto? He was pretty excited. I thought the sex was at the culmination of the "date."

I don't know. I really got the opposite impression here. I got that they really are in a relationship. The very early, still fucking like bunnies, stage but definitely a relationship. I also didn't see the scene as played for LULZ. The situation was funny, but not the sex. Ianto settled that when he walked out and, instead of apologizing, said it didn't matter that she'd walked in. No silly apologies for teh ghey sexin. The apologies are for interrupting it. Jack did use the sex to make a point with Gwen. To put her in her place, even. I still don't think he was acting disrespectfully to Ianto. In fact, exactly the opposite. Ianto, on the other hand...

I didn't get the impression that Jack was in on Ianto's deception. I got the impression that Ianto knew this was the best way to help both Jack and Gwen achieve their goals with the least amount of trouble. Tough love, if you will.

I loved that they finally gave us a hint as to where Ianto stands in this. I think that's part of why I get a more serious impression. I got that while Ianto believes it is serious, he separates the sex from the emotions. The overall, season-long impression that I get is that emotionally they are very close, but that Ianto is just as open as Jack to allowing in other partners and experimenting.

This episode really solidified a lot of things in my head. I just hope they stick with this characterization after Chibnall leaves, because this is what makes the most sense to me. I CANNOT WAIT for Friday. Then how long until a new episode? Bastards.

Date: 2008-03-20 05:23 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] off_coloratura
I got it from the Ianto having a quiet word with Jack, from the easygoing way they treated it when they were caught, and from the way they were right back at it when Gwen left.

Date: 2008-03-20 05:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rowanswhimsy.livejournal.com
Hm. Jack had an ulterior motive for resuming teh sexy in order to shut Gwen up. He also seemed to need to work out his anger issues. :-(

Jack is a big diva. Ianto seems to understand that. It was probably Jack yelling for Ianto & more sex while Ianto served him coffee that turned me off plus Jack referring to the sex as 'returning to work'. Let Jack serve Ianto for once, damn it!

I understand that the Hub is Jack's home. So having sex in the greenhouse didn't bother me because it's sort of like christening all the rooms. But using the language and visuals of work during sexual encounters really bothers me because it reinforces the inequality of the relationship.

Date: 2008-03-20 09:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meleth.livejournal.com
I read "back to work" as less of a directive to Ianto, and more "let's both of us get back to work, where work equals sexing each other up lots." The joy of unexpressed subjects.

Date: 2008-03-20 09:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rowanswhimsy.livejournal.com
What I meant though was that I don't like referring to their sexual activity as 'work' given that they are already in a work relationship where Jack is the superior.

Date: 2008-03-20 10:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meleth.livejournal.com
Ah, right. No, I see that. But we already know about Jack's Office Kink. They were probably cross-referencing things. Sexily.

Date: 2008-03-20 11:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rowanswhimsy.livejournal.com
Well, if it was sexy cross-referencing, that makes all the difference in the world... ;-)

Date: 2008-03-20 11:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meleth.livejournal.com
There were highlighters. And colored tabs. And those little post-it flags that come out of pens. It was HOT.

Date: 2008-03-21 01:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rowanswhimsy.livejournal.com
Those post-it flags could get stuck in uncomfortable places.

Date: 2008-03-21 02:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meleth.livejournal.com
The danger is half the fun, donchaknow.

Date: 2008-03-20 05:36 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Still not convinced of seriousness.

As for sex scene. Don't know that it was just played for laughs I would say a sex scene doesn't necessarily have to be 'sexy' however you play it.

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