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[tencrush]

In Russell's world, bumsex with Russell Tovey pretty much fixes all your emo manpain, no matter how vast, yeah?

That's pretty faily right there. Not as faily as that thing with Martha and you know who, but still pretty fucking offensively faily. As was that thing with Donna. Wow, that's a lot of fucking fail to heap upon an awful lot of companions.

DON'T LET THE DOOR HIT YOUR ASS RUSSELL.

Also, did Simm just disappear, never to be mentioned again, or did it just seem that way?

Comments

[coldwater1010.livejournal.com]

Except the version of Jack that supposedly began COE wasn't really the guy who ended COE. He was supposedly 'broken' and grief stricken and feeling guilty. I assume we're at least supposed to think he's still 'grieving' otherwise he wouldn't have needed the Doctor to set him up he'd be running around finding his own boytoys. RTD wanted a 'broken' Jack which is why COE Jack had to suffer and suffer for his sins. So I suspect you're more likely to see a 'I'm looking for a redemption' Jack than the guy who showed up at the beginning of COE.

[karaokegal.livejournal.com]

I never bought into the "broken" meme. He's done worse and he lost more. Sp no, not "grieving" either, certainly not for one temporary individual in his life, if anything for the one he left behind, and possibly for the chain of events starting with the Doctor's abandonment. That is the tragedy of his life; not any individual "relationship."

And if he's looking for redemption, it's still going to bring him back to Torchwood and eventually Gwen either in the bonded friendship/UST mode or to resolve the unexplained, unexplored love that RTD alluded to.

The fact that our last image of Jack is smiling and handsome, doesn't really lead to a whole gut-wrenching, soul-searching thing, although how much would the J/I shippers hate it if that happened...and it was Gwen he looked to for help?

[coldwater1010.livejournal.com]

Well he may have done worst, but in terms of what we know from the show I'm hard pressed to think what. You'll have to enlighten me.

[karaokegal.livejournal.com]

Nearly a hundred years with Torchwood, especially pre-2000, Time Agent period, including his stint as go-to torture guy and the war before that. The boy's got plenty of guilt on his plate, which is why he went all ballistic in the death scene.

[coldwater1010.livejournal.com]

Which death scene are you talking about?

[karaokegal.livejournal.com]

Ianto's.

Massive accumulated guilt especially regarding the death of yet another TW employee on his watch, plus residual abandonment issues relative to the Doctor.