The awesome Toshiko Sato

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A QUESTION FOR MY TORCHWOOD PALS REGARDING TOSH IN GREEKS BEARING GIFTS

[Poll #1439526]


The reason I ask is because I am reasonably familiar with old skool lesbian pulp fiction novels (umm... here, have a brief introduction), the gist of which is usually something along the lines of an innocent girl being Tempted Into Lesbian Experimentation by an Evil Lesbian, 100+ pages of reasonably tame sex ensue until finally the innocent girl is rescued from the Evils of Sapphic Desire by a Manly Man who Forgives her her Disgusting Aberration and maybe even decides to touch her down there if the thought of it doesn't gross him out him too much. The End. Anyway, that's what Greeks Bearing Gifts was to me, a lesbian pulp novel. And I wonder if one has to be familiar with the genre in order to see it that way, or if it struck more people just generally as kind of a squicky storyline. Feel free to comment and let me know.

Comments

[rebeccama.livejournal.com]

I chose "Tosh would label herself as bisexual" due to her comment about her family thinking that being with a woman is worse than being with an alien. It gave me the impression that Mary wasn't the first time Tosh had been attracted to a woman. Also early on there seemed to be the attitude that everyone in Torchwood is bisexual.

However, I admit this is weak evidence as this attitude seemed to change in later episodes. Gwen's only same gender experience is "under the influence". Owen's was "get out of a jam". So the "everyone is bisexual in Torchwood" argument is weakened and Tosh never again shows any interest in another woman.

I am not a fan of pulp novels, but I am film fan so I did catch the "old production code compliant story of the innocent woman corrupted by evil lesbian" vibe. I didn't think much of it at the time because I assumed we'd see more female characters in lesbian relationships.

via torchwood_three

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I assumed we'd see more female characters in lesbian relationships
Yeah, I notice that didn't really happen, did it? Huh.

[robling-t.livejournal.com]

Owen's was "get out of a jam"

Although on another hand here, why was spraying himself with the pheromones his first idea...? ;)

[wolfy-writing.livejournal.com]

I've noticed that Gwen definitely seems to be an exception to the whole "Everyone is bi!" thing. With Owen, it's really up for interpretation, but with Gwen, there's no willing kissing, dating, sleeping with, or expressing attraction to other women.