The awesome Toshiko Sato

[tencrush]

A QUESTION FOR MY TORCHWOOD PALS REGARDING TOSH IN GREEKS BEARING GIFTS

[Poll #1439526]


The reason I ask is because I am reasonably familiar with old skool lesbian pulp fiction novels (umm... here, have a brief introduction), the gist of which is usually something along the lines of an innocent girl being Tempted Into Lesbian Experimentation by an Evil Lesbian, 100+ pages of reasonably tame sex ensue until finally the innocent girl is rescued from the Evils of Sapphic Desire by a Manly Man who Forgives her her Disgusting Aberration and maybe even decides to touch her down there if the thought of it doesn't gross him out him too much. The End. Anyway, that's what Greeks Bearing Gifts was to me, a lesbian pulp novel. And I wonder if one has to be familiar with the genre in order to see it that way, or if it struck more people just generally as kind of a squicky storyline. Feel free to comment and let me know.

Comments

[ionlylurkhere.livejournal.com]

GBG is squicky as all hell, but I do think Tosh is bi, mainly because it's Torchwood and everyone's more or less bi.

[tencrush]

It's just that we are never given any reason, either before or after that episode, to believe that Tosh is anything other than straight. That episode bugs me on so many levels, but it's that level of Mary using Evil Lesbian Manipulation to get Tosh into bed that bothers me the most.

[ionlylurkhere.livejournal.com]

But (partly because Tosh is woefully underwritten) we get very little information on who she fancies. We see her pine after Owen and her relationship with Tommy in TTLM, but that doesn't strike me as enough information to establish her as definitively straight. Though, tbh, part of the reason I prefer to think of her as bi (other than fic purposes, obv) is that it makes GBG marginally less squicky if there's a chance she was attracted to Mary anyway.

[tencrush]

Exactly my point, yeah. Seeing her as bi makes that story less gross, but it's really the only reason I'd like to think that she's bi. Just like I liked thinking there was more to Jack/Ianto than sex, because seeing it any other way made it sexual harassment in the workplace for me. But I was wrong about that one, so you never know.