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[personal profile] tencrush
I will use my Romana icon because it means instant BNFdom. Nos thinks I should tell everyone on LJ how I pissed off Steven Moffat onna OG.



I just said:

It struck me as really odd, listening to the commentary for Girl in the Fireplace, that Moffat just handwaved the fact that he had written the relationship between Mickey and Rose as chummy and lolleriffic because he "hadn't seen the script" for School Reunion. It's bugged me ever since. Surely it's Russell's job to tie these sorts of things up, and I'm not going to say Russell's not doing his job properly, but why have a character dynamic change so dramatically from Rose blatantly not wanting to take Mickey along to being totally fine and happy with it? It always struck me as just a little bit sloppy.
I think season 2 has suffered from this kind of sloppy character continuity quite a bit, definitely where Rose is concerned. I think Russell has dropped the ball on occasion on that level.


To which he done said:

Oh, you chaps will take any excuse to jump on the mighty Welshman's head, won't you? Well not on my watch!

It was the right decision. It was just not me that took it. We presume, as we must, that Rose chose to make the best of it, after a (very) brief initial sulk. It would, of course, be the only thing she COULD do. To behave otherwise would be far too revealing. A brief tiny moment between episodes - she shakes her head, smiles. She's incredibly fond of Mickey, what else could she credibly do?

You know, there may be many things you could say about Russell and the Doctor Who production team (of whom I'm not one, so this is neither conceit nor defensiveness) but to call them careless or sloppy is so completely unfair and untrue I can't stop myself wasting my time telling you that.


Steven Moffat


To which I said:

Moffmeister, I worhip and adore you, please don't take offence.
*flails girlily*
I was merely citing it as an example of the things that, as you say, we are meant to presume have happened between one episode and the next. And I appreciate they probably aren't worth getting into most of the time, but an occasional nod would be nice, and I think this season has lacked that occasional nod sometimes. But then, as I have dicussed at length elsewhere, the message that Stuff Happens and People And Time Lords Move On is being planted quite a bit and that I would like to think that is deliberate, it certainly makes sense to me anyway.
*does a cry*
Even Steven Moffat thinks I'm a man.
*wails*
I've just come from another message board where the last thing I typed was MOFFAT FOR TEH WIN, and look what happens.
*sob*


And that's it really. Nos thinks I am now a BNF, yes? Nos would like to bask in my glory of coaxing teh Moff out of hiding just to say what he done said there.
*hubris*

But anyway, he's not angry, really, he done sent me PM saying all was well. No money changed hands. More's the pity.


I say again: MOFFAT FOR TEH WIN!!!!

Date: 2006-06-21 10:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nostalgia-lj.livejournal.com
omg did he offer you PM!sexin?

Date: 2006-06-21 10:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nostalgia-lj.livejournal.com
I dunno. But you would have got more points if he did.

Date: 2006-06-21 11:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Chatting with writers is considered a qualification for BNFdom in some circles. So, do you want the official ribbon?

Date: 2006-06-21 11:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nostalgia-lj.livejournal.com
I are baking her a cake. You only get a cake in this fandom. I'd say it's incestuous but that r teh sik.

*mixes cake*

Date: 2006-06-21 11:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
Does it at least have writing on it?

Date: 2006-06-21 11:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nostalgia-lj.livejournal.com
Not yet. But it might have?

Date: 2006-06-21 11:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
It should have. And maybe a candle.

Date: 2006-06-21 11:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nostalgia-lj.livejournal.com
But we haven't yet worked out the number of candles for each tier of the fandom and whether one counts only the highest number and whether the book lines are equatable and do we count each one and what about Big Finish?

Date: 2006-06-21 11:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nostalgia-lj.livejournal.com
Cake is serrius bizness.


*counts candles* Now, do we count Teh Moff for TV Candles only, or do we count that one story? And what about that Curse of Joanna Lumley thing? What does that count as? Maybe is the candles were different colours?

Date: 2006-06-21 11:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nostalgia-lj.livejournal.com
OKAY!

One blue candle for the story inna Decalog, two red ones for TV (two-parters only give one candle, yo), and a pink one for Curse of Fatal Death?

Date: 2006-06-21 12:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nostalgia-lj.livejournal.com
...if you offered Teh Moff PM!sex he might write that line into something for S3?

Date: 2006-06-21 12:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nostalgia-lj.livejournal.com
It'd be a good episode title an' all.

Date: 2006-06-21 03:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-10thdoctor.livejournal.com
You see, this is why they just give out iPods. Cos cakes and candles and stuffs are way too complicated. :)

Date: 2006-06-21 01:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] secretive-bus.livejournal.com
I used to chat with Craig Hinton on MSN a lot. Does that count?


...


Does it?

Date: 2006-06-21 12:33 pm (UTC)
fahrbotdrusilla: Irulan’s ridic costume (Doctor Who - Romana II)
From: [personal profile] fahrbotdrusilla
yay, you win at fandom?

Date: 2006-06-21 12:46 pm (UTC)
fahrbotdrusilla: Irulan’s ridic costume (Doctor Who - Romana 2)
From: [personal profile] fahrbotdrusilla
mmm cake!

Date: 2006-06-21 01:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] secretive-bus.livejournal.com
I once sent Moffat a PM telling him that I liked his work. He never replied. :-(

*sobs*

Date: 2006-06-23 11:06 am (UTC)
fahrbotdrusilla: Irulan’s ridic costume (Coupling - Oliver/Dalek OTP!!!)
From: [personal profile] fahrbotdrusilla
I love and have the whole series BUT Jefflessness was weird, and they really should have let Oliver do more than they did seeing as he was suppose to be the replacement (no one could replace Jeff though).

Date: 2006-06-21 02:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dune-drd.livejournal.com
Mwhahaah! You actually pissed him off, that's certainly your bid for BNFdom. Strange how many people seem to chat with writers on my flist... gotta love this fandom!

Date: 2006-06-21 05:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] --kali--.livejournal.com
You hit proper BNFdom if you make a writer/actor/crew member cry. Go forth!

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