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[tencrush]

eleven_rose

I don't usually post solely to slag things off and call them shit, but I'll make an exception. Given that we know NOTHING about Eleven, and won't do for another two-odd years, what, exactly, is the point in shipping him with anyone? Given the fact that there is a perfectly adequate Doctor/Rose community in time_and_chips, why create a comm specifically for this pairing? Given that Doctor/Rose shippers have a tendency to h8 on Moffat for reasons of Reinette and River Song, why start a community for the specific shipping of Moffat's Doctor, who, let's face it, chippers probably won't like, with Rose, whom Moffat doesn't like and couldn't write a decent part for even when she was IN the show? Just because they were in a few shows together? Is that it? See, what I can see happening, is that frequenters of eleven_rose will spend the next two years building up a fictastic alternate universe that is SO OOC and bizarre that they can only be disappointed, and disappointed hugely, when Eleven happens and there is no Rose. Which is what's going to happen.

Already, the two fics posted there contain the summary lines "Let's pretend Doomsday didn't happen!" If I were more inclined to be a bitch, I'd say something bitchy about that, but it's the new year, so live and let live and all that. Though on a bitchy note I must add:
1) The comm is titled Smith & Tyler. That's a REAL NAME, paired with a FICTIONAL NAME. Yes. Quite.
2) ETC. is spelled ETC. Not ECT. It stands for ET CETERA. Hence ETC.
Huge swathes of this fandom embarrass me so. Don't even get me started on Jack/Ianto photomanips.

I got quoted on who_anon, but in an ENTIRELY different context than the last time. My socks can still bring teh luls, at least.

ETA: Am only really posting to share new icon.

ETA AGAIN: I think what bugs me about eleven_rose is that those who ship Eleven and Rose could have been shipping Eleven and Rose and starting communites about them since Tennant announced his departure ages ago, yet they chose to wait until they found out Eleven was a skinny white boy to do so. Presumably because they needed a place to write fic about his hair. Just sayin'.

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[off_coloratura]

God, was that letter hysterical. Good on you.

[littlepunkryo.livejournal.com]

I can't believe there's fic of ANY kind already - within like an hour actually there was a terrible Ianto/Eleven fic posted, though, so why am I shocked?

[love-jackianto.livejournal.com]

'a terrible Ianto/Eleven fic posted'
I tried to read that one. *shudders*

There was also a pretty good one posted, Young Men. It dealt more with Jack and Gwen's reaction to Ianto/Eleven than Ianto/Eleven itself.

[crossoverman.livejournal.com]

Proving - as if I needed it - that fan fic is about the pretty and not about characters AT ALL. Fucking Rose fans! Do you see Martha fen desperately shipping her with Eleven? NO! Because they have some sense.

[tencrush]

One of those two fics mentions his hair a lot. Lol.

[crossoverman.livejournal.com]

I was pretty certain that the hair would go, but after seeing him in Party Animals, I think he needs the hair to make his giant head work ;-)

[doyle_sb4.livejournal.com]

The earliest Ten/Martha fic I can find on lifeonmartha was posted on 12th July 2006, 6 days after Freema's casting was announced and eight months before her first episode. Marthafen did this too (I know I did.) Some Rose fans bitched about it at the time.

[crossoverman.livejournal.com]

I stand corrected - all fanficcers are crazy! :P

Writing fan fic about characters you know NOTHING ABOUT is madness.

[kelspots.livejournal.com]

I was gonna tell you I liked the new icon without you even saying anything, honest. I missed the emoticon on first glance, but when I saw it down there I LOL'd, for realz.

Wait...

[offer-of-hope.livejournal.com]

Is fanfic supposed to have anything to do with actual as in for realz canon characters??? Dammit, Janet, another email I missed. Erase erase erase on that Jack/Ianto/Gwen/Phys/Myfanwy polyamory/bestiality epic I was about to post.

Oh, come on, let's hear it about the photo manips - you know you want to.

Re: Wait...

[tencrush]

Well, all those you mention there at least have a canon personality of some sort. And, like I said, there's a perfectly adequate AnyDoctor/Rose community already. It just reeks of teh crazy to me.

[iko.livejournal.com]

I can imagine Eleven/Belle, but not Eleven/Rose, for the reasons that you state.

I will LOL the first time that Eleven uses his John Smith alias, though.

And I love that Ianto is not amused.

[alba17.livejournal.com]

The icon's great! (no opinion on 11/Rose comm, but I defend the right of fan fic writers to write about whatever they want to, including Matt Smith's hair). I'm with you on the Jack/Ianto manips, BTW. I think it's hilarious that people were posting 11 fic within hours.

[misscam.livejournal.com]

There are specific Nine/Rose and Ten/Rose comms as well, so I'm not really surprised. Some people don't like modding at T&C or find it too big, and other reasons in that vein.

[santousha.livejournal.com]

Smith and Tyler? Is that John Smith and Rose Tyler or Matt Smith and Rose Tyler?
Mucho confused much but no matter I've only seen DW episodes that relate to TW in some way. Not a DW fan, never have been. Maybe I would be if the series actually aired in my country.

[cionaudha.livejournal.com]

I saw the first Eleven/Ianto mere hours after the announcement.

Eleven's just a shiny new Mary Sue for now.

Love Mr. Grumpypants. :-D

[louiex.livejournal.com]

Bah, this is because he was on that call girl show with Billie Piper too, isn't it? *sighs* Since when did Doctor Who become 'Rose Tyler is paired with Who?'... she is but ONE character in a very, very long series where the Doctor had several love interests during his many regenerations! It makes me laugh with much glee to hear that Moffat doesn't like her

[love-jackianto.livejournal.com]

There's all ready a comm for a pairing where one half of the pairing doesn't even exist yet? *points to icon*

Love your new icon, by the way :D


Edit: I just checked out eleven_rose and the first thing I noticed was in the second story posted, the author used 'role' when they should have used 'roll' in the AN. I'm on a role. That does not bode well for the fic.

[fahrbotdrusilla]

since they don't like Moffat anyway, maybe they'll take the fanfic as their canon and ignore the real show when it does come back?

[louisema.livejournal.com]

Thereby disappearing off into the ether so that those of us sticking with actual canon for our canon are free of their mis-spelt, poorly punctuated, grammatically incorrect Mary-Sue-tastic fanfic! Hurrah!

I had a discussion with a couple of my friends the other day about how now Tennant's gone, maybe we'll lose the fans who were only watching for the pretty and don't remember Eccleston...or maybe we'll just get a shedload of new ones. Trouble with any actor who's been in anything before Who is he'll bring a following of screaming fangirls...

[travellingone.livejournal.com]

See, it's not Eleven they're writing. What they're really writing is Twilight because Eleven and Edward have the exact same hair.

They possibly share it.

Eleven is just a front.

[cirrocumulus.livejournal.com]

I know, the first time I heard about eleven_rose I just kind of laughed and then becamse steadily worried. The character has absolutely no personality so far, so how is anyone going to write fic about him? Unless it's just really written very vaguely which sounds pretty horrible to me. And Eleven is never actually going to meet Rose because I doubt they're going to have her pop in from a parallel universe again. I'd think once is enough.

[venusinchains.livejournal.com]

That's just another one of those fandom things - that happen everywhere and never really make sense. All some people need is a visual, or even just a character name, and they're off, making it up as they go along.

Even if there's plenty of actual movie/TV material out, I have seen confessions like "I've never actually seen [the movie or TV show] - but here's my fic!1!!" And it'll be immediately obvious that they have no clue about the characters (though lots of fanon might be used).

Some people just have too much time on their hands. (Or are TOO obsessive about particular characters, actors or pairings.)

[kel-reiley.livejournal.com]

Presumably because they needed a place to write fic about his hair.

well, obviously
there have already been eleven/ianto fics - i have not actually seen with my own eyes (for fear of eye gouging, you understand) but am told there is sparkly kissing and ianto fainting when getting caught by jack... or something

LOVE your new icon

[louisema.livejournal.com]

"Let's just pretend Rose never left the Doctor! Doomsday never happened!"

This is *my* major problem with it.

That and the fact that I am SO OVER ROSE.

Love new icon :D

[peterwilliams.livejournal.com]

Wow, the DW fandom is serious business, apparently.

[tencrush]

Nah, just SRS BSNS.