I'm spamming today, I know.

[tencrush]

Yeah, so apparently someone was bugged enough by me to call me the Biggest Attention Whore in TW Fandom on the anonymeme. And I never even READ the anonymeme, I only went there because of the Tennant news and the fact that everything else was down due to fandom implosion. I'm quite honoured, not for the Attention Whore thing (which I find odd, I don't post to comms and I hardly ever comment anywhere, so if I'm whoring for your attention, you must be reading my LJ on your flist, so defriend me already), but I am quite honoured to be called SHOCKING AND CONTROVERSIAL AND CLEVER. Clever, especially.

Most of what I read on LJ when it comes to Torchwood is meta rambling, and there are a lot of people out there who are a lot more clever than I am on that front. Most of what I write on LJ about Torchwood is meta rambling, mostly concerning Jack/Ianto, a relationship I don't ship, but love to scrutinise because IT'S THERE and it's so fucking ambiguous and I love ambiguous. Most of what I've been doing lately is reposting pictures for my flist who don't do DWF for whatever reason, because I like sharing the pretty. On that note, yeah, I think GDL is pretty. I had a discussion in one of my posts that I ended up deleting because the original poster deleted their comments, but the gist was that I don't worship the guy. (I worship Ianto, don't get me wrong, I have more love for Ianto that I have ever had for a fictional character, ever.) I think he's a good little actor and he's pretty, but I reckon he's probably a bit of a dick IRL, the reason I don't really mention that a lot, is that, apart from my outburst about Barrowman last week, I don't particularly like discussing the personalities of actual people in my LJ, those of you who read regularly will know I'm not interested in people's private lives and relationships, I don't like RPF and I'm not really into RL gossip and such. I'll talk about his cock and pies until the cows come home because it's a superficial hypocritical thing I like to do and it keeps me amused, and everyone who knows me and shares my sense of humour knows that both of those things only serve as an excuse for me to post gratuitous pictures of him on a daily basis, because, like I said if you read back, I think he's pretty. I had an outburst about JB and GDL's behaviour at The Hub, not because of what they did, because I don't particularly give a flying fuck WHAT they do, but because the repercussions of what they did seemed to be focussing on the fans, and fannish responsibility to keep these things to yourself and I think that's a ridiculous approach to take because it causes wank. And much like some of the posters on the anonymeme, all those icons of JB and GDL snogging make me feel a bit weird. But that's just me.

So, yeah, whatever, I stand by what I said ages ago, I think TW fandom's a lovely place to be and the people in it are warm and fuzzy and cool and I wouldn't want to be anywhere else, so, you know, go fuck yourself.

I put that last line in to be shocking and controversial.

ETA: The reason I'm bringing this up is a) to be an attention whore, obviously, but mostly b) because I started that wankish post about Barrowman last week because I was in a really bitchy mood and looking for a fight, a state that I'm not actually in that often (at home, yes, online, not so much) but that thread backfired because I ended up with 90-odd comments which consisted of people being really quite nice to me and freaking me the fuck out. If I'd known what was going on in the anonymeme at that point in time, I'd have felt much, much better. The fucking irony.

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[kateorman.livejournal.com]

the Biggest Attention Whore in TW Fandom

Fandom: oozing envy like an infected watermelon since 1975.

Erm, an envious watermelon, obvs.

[tencrush]

I NEVER FUCKING READ WHO_ANON and the first random page I click because I'm looking for today's date says I'm an attention whore. It's crazy, I tell you, I never post anywhere. I feel like an attention whore NOW, for bringing it up, obviously. In fact I am BEING an attention whore now for bringing it up, but it was just so random I had to share.

[kateorman.livejournal.com]

Man, if someone's created a thingumyjig that plugs the name of WHOEVER HAPPENS TO BE LOOKING into a sentence about being an attention whore, that would be genius. Alas, I don't think the collective IQ on the anon meme would stretch to that dizzying height.

[tencrush]

That would be so cool. Unfortunately all the comments (it was a competition between me and somebody nobody had ever heard of) confirmed it was me that they were talking about.

I may well look into creating a thing that just puts your username into the anonymeme and calls you a wanker. That would be aces.

[bandgeek01.livejournal.com]

You Shocking and controversial? Whatever. You say it like you see it.

I may not agree 100% with you but I always see where your coming from in your posts.


Nicole

[tencrush]

And clever.
*smug*
Don't forget clever.

[bandgeek01.livejournal.com]

*doh* I forgot the most important one. You are shocking, controversial and CLEVER.

Nicole

[wiley-nilly.livejournal.com]

You clever, clever attention whore. I'm honored to be in your presence.

I read you because you make me laugh, think, snicker, enjoy another POV.

Don't change. Well, change if you want, but I like you fine.

Srsly, you clever attention whore.

[tencrush]

I am pretty clever, yeah. Mostly because of the way I force my journal on people and make them read it so they can complain about me being an attention whore. I've been really antisocial lately and I don't even post comments anywhere anymore, so where I'm whoring myself out is a complete mystery to me.

[cageyklio.livejournal.com]

Don't you hate it when you whore yourself out without your knowledge? All of the drawbacks and none of the perks.

[cionaudha.livejournal.com]

Is the pay the same?

[used_songs]

I enjoy reading your thoughts because you don't idealize. I don't know why people get offended when you say things that are not 100% praise. Why would anyone be offended? Now, if you were talking shit about my MOM ... then we would have to throw down! But JB or GDL? Much as I love the show and like their work, it seems silly to get worked up about critique.

My 2 cents.

[jo02]

Attention Whore, I don't know about, but certainly clever.

And I'd go so far as to add 'Entertaining' and 'Sometimes Provocative', otherwise I would never have tagged you so I don't miss anything.

Hehe ... keep up the good work.

[littlepunkryo.livejournal.com]

Wow, you Have An Opinion About Something And Like To Talk About It! You filthy whore you!!

[overlady-hikki.livejournal.com]

Wait, so you're telling me that people actually convene to bitch about you now?

Wow. You're famous like a...a...politician.

[cionaudha.livejournal.com]

We could wear buttons! Have an online forum! And meet-ups where everyone is lovey and wonderful and we'll all post about our memories and photos!

Need a motto. Who's good with mottos?

[love-jackianto.livejournal.com]

'Need a motto. Who's good with mottos?'
How about: It's time for a crush.

[cionaudha.livejournal.com]

I like it! :-D

[love-jackianto.livejournal.com]

Thanks.

Have a button (icon):

[alba17.livejournal.com]

Glad you found your fan wank over there on that anonymeme whatever. I just think you're hilarious and entertaining. How can you be an attention whore if you don't post to comms?

(I didn't comment on the Barrowman post because I didn't really have an opinion about that. Plus I felt I didn't know all the facts. Or maybe I just wasn't in the mood.)

Side note on GDL: "I reckon he's probably a bit of a dick IRL" - while I thoroughly enjoyed the Hub kissing pics, I'm starting to feel a bit this way also and I feel sad about it. Some of the quotes from him at the Hub kind of horrify me. And the cumulative effect is slightly sickening - and as a fan, I want to like him. bleh

[cionaudha.livejournal.com]

I'm starting to feel a bit this way also and I feel sad about it.

Agreed. I would really like to hear that he's just playing up to his fangirls, and that he's just a decent ordinary bloke otherwise... but it's getting harder to believe that. The attention seems to be getting to him; though I can't imagine it's easy to resist the adoration of willing fair maidens.

And his drinking is starting to be terrifying. He can't remember what he did the day before??? Your career, Gareth! Your career!

All that said, of course I have no idea what he's actually like. May my impressions be entirely wrong; hear me God.

[alba17.livejournal.com]

"he's just playing up to his fangirls" - well, I think some of his comments (as reported) were skirting with misogyny and kind of demeaning to women - maybe people don't care as long as it's sex-related, I have no idea, and maybe it looks worse in print than it sounded when he said it.

"The attention seems to be getting to him" - not knowing him in the least, I think this may be true.

"And his drinking is starting to be terrifying. He can't remember what he did the day before??? Your career, Gareth! Your career!" -
I didn't mention this in my previous comment, but this makes me really nervous too. Although to be honest, I acted the same way at his age (I mean drinking-wise - I'm staid and middle-aged now), I wasn't on TV and appearing at cons representing my TV show. I mean, this is basically work for him (although he clearly doesn't see it that way) - I think he needs to rein it in a bit, as far as that goes. Although if that contributed to all the boy kissing, I might re-think that position. On the other hand, there was the pie issue which was probably related. (refraining from using Hub kiss icon in deference to tencrush's squickiness about it)


I can't for the life of me figure out how to make the Quote button work on the comments, sorry. Any guidance? maybe it's my browser.

[(Anonymous)]

WORD.

he best smarten up soon, cuz he could be SO awesome.

[mellacita.livejournal.com]

I think he is playing up to the crowd at things like this, to be honest. A good friend I attended the Hub with had one of the forty-five minute dohickeys with him. Before the con, she worried he was turning into a douche but instead they wound up having several very interesting and insightful conversations about non-fannish subjects like education, learning styles, classism, etc.

One-on-one encounters he seems to be very kind and attentive on the whole. The short amount of time I spent with him both here and at the Rift I was rather struck at how nice he was. Granted, he has a foul mouth and fondness for booze, but I think he and Kai both played up how trashed/hungover they were for the humor. They were both far more functional than I was at times, for example. GDL claimed to have been so drunk he didn't recall kissing Kai but a good half hour later he was outside having very coherent conversations and playing with a little kid.

I also wonder a little. GDL was almost downright shy when he first started doing these things. Maybe the alcohol and the outrageousness are compensation. But I dunno, I am probably projecting my own issues there. It's not like I know him.

However, innuendos, cursing, exposure, drunkeness aside, both at the Rift and the Hub I was left with the impression of a decent, mid-twenties bloke. Far from a saint, but self-deprecating and genuinely appreciative of fans. He may find it serves him to pull it in a little more in the future (a selfish part of me really hopes not :p) depending on where his career goes next.

[cionaudha.livejournal.com]

Whew. I hope you're right. That's the man I see in there --and a delightful young thing it is-- but con reports always freak me out. Who is that??!! It's impossible to know if I'm overreacting... seeing something that's really only an act.

There's an impish young man who reads philosophy, dreams of the Inca empire, helps young actors, hikes through Wales, loves his job, and has a band with his mates. I like that guy.

Eh, I can go toe-to-toe with him on the cussing. ;-)

God, I'm so patronizing. But at 43 I'm looking back at 27 as a lifetime ago.

[mellacita.livejournal.com]

He's probably all of those things and more.

I've done press/volunteering/etc for things from grand slam tennis tournaments to the Toronto Film Festival and have had the enjoyment of being treated like a nobody by everyone from Andre Agassi to Sean Penn to Charlize Theron to Orlando Bloom to no-name actors and satellite tournament players. Gareth ranks high on my list of genuinely decent "celebs" I've encountered. Not the nicest one EVAR OMG!!, but high on the list. He probably has his share of OMGWTFIWWYCRAZYFANGIRL moments in his head and with his mates, but he's entitled to those I think! :)

BTW, I don't know that I have ever commented with you but I thought you should know that your quote (in this very journal):

""Elitist" is the word used to describe candidates with education. Dubya can get away with being a Yalie because he's dumb as a box of rocks, see, but Obama is elitist."

is on my facebook page. :P At least I think you said that. It's so true.

[cionaudha.livejournal.com]

Really? Quoted? *is chuffed*

Wait-- does that make me an attention whore? ;-)


He's probably all of those things and more.

He's probably, like, a person, and all complex. He has mentioned that it's either act or completely lose his shit. Even allowing for Celtic overstatement, that's a heck of a pronouncement. What's he got going on in there...? Intriguing.


What do those Charlizes and Seans have to gain by treating you like lint? Nobody ever went wrong by being kind to slaving journalists.

[mellacita.livejournal.com]

What do those Charlizes and Seans have to gain by treating you like lint? Nobody ever went wrong by being kind to slaving journalists.

Well, I tended to get treated worse as a volunteer than when I would do press, admittedly. People in the public eye have a whole different view of the world in general. :/ Of course, Torchwood is not exactly Pirates of the Caribbean or anything in terms of money making and recognition, so comparing GDL to big name actors is probably silly anyway. But I think he's pretty decent, or at least knows he should be. :P

[kateorman.livejournal.com]

dreams of the Inca empire

!

[cionaudha.livejournal.com]

He's always been fascinated, apparently. Is dying to see Peru.

If I had a squillion dollars, I'd (anonymously) buy him two round-trip tickets to an utterly life-changing vacation.

[nobleroman1.livejournal.com]

Oh, bless you for this statement. I thought maybe I was being a blind, prejudiced fan who refused to see GD-L in a negative light, but yeah, I agree with you. After reading several of the various con reports (including those on his appearances here in North America), I think he's *giving* the fandom what he believes the majority wants to see. As long as the boy doesn't hurt his career, or ESPECIALLY HIMSELF, I'm all for it. Yeah, I'm 45 years old woman, and have never had a wild drunken moment in my entire life, but I can forgive youthful indiscretions (as long as no harm comes to others). And if the supposed bad behavior is - to some degree - him giving service to those fans who like the antics of naughty boys, then all the better.

[mellacita.livejournal.com]

Well, I am 33 and have had many wild drunken moments. Some of them just at the Hub. :P He's (I think) just a guy who loves booze, music, women, winding up fans by snogging men, and is on the telly. I do wonder what he would be like if Torchwood weren't the source of his fame and he wasn't in the company of wonderfully perverted mentors like Barrowman and Marsters. :P

[alba17.livejournal.com]

That's nice to hear. When you only read about something, you don't really know if you're getting the full picture. I'm so glad I watched the panel video before it was taken off. (even though I couldn't understand a damn thing GDL said)

[mslauren2930.livejournal.com]

all those icons of JB and GDL snogging make me feel a bit weird. But that's just me.

and here I thought it was just me.