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Fucking Christ, I wish I'd never had a Green Card. Now, do I need to retroactively apply for advance parole because I broke my residency requirement as a minor and therefore am a victim of extraordinary circumstances beyond my control? Am I better off actually just pretending I never HAD a Green Card in the first place and starting over? If I go to the embassy now and wave my Green Card at them, will they take those big guns of theirs and wave them in my face and make me cut it up and sign an abandonment agreement? Goddamn you Americans, I HATE YOU SO MUCH, SRSLY your country isn't worth all this freaking effort and if anything I have to sign mentions God I shall be really miffed, I'm telling you that in advance because it's always all about God and why don't you just go stick your head in a pig. What about my Social Security number? Is that even still valid if I've never filed a tax return or had a bank account? Should I throw myself upon Darryn's firm's lawyer and just beg for help instead of trying to work it all out?

The only thing that makes me happy is the knowledge that if I go to the Fitchburg DMV RIGHT NOW, show them my 10 years expired driver's licence and give them my old address, they'll just give me a new one because that's what the Fitchburg DMV do. They'll send it to my old address, but I'll get the Millers to send it on. Plus ca change at the Fitchburg DMV, dudes. And at 24 Smith Street, for that matter.

ANYWAY, having drunkenly typed all that, Sarah Palin, dudes. She calls people "guys and gals". And you want me to put the effort in and prove to you that I want to live in your country? Do me a favour. How am I supposed to keep a straight face?

Date: 2008-09-17 09:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alba17.livejournal.com
"Should I throw myself upon Darryn's firm's lawyer and just beg for help instead of trying to work it all out?"

Yes, do that. Once upon a time, I was an immigration lawyer. Don't ask me anything now though. It's extremely complicated. Don't take this as formal legal advice, but I wouldn't pretend you'd never had a green card. (don't know if you were serious about that). They don't make it easy, that's for sure. ( Fitchburg Mass? I grew up in Mass.)

Social security number: is that a serious question? It's valid even if you never file a tax return or anything else, as far as I know.

Date: 2008-09-17 10:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cionaudha.livejournal.com
Oh man, big guns are persuasive. I was at the end of a bunch of them, a bunch of times, in Pakistan. Yes SIR! O__O

Surely there's no need.

Date: 2008-09-17 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cionaudha.livejournal.com
Depends on where you are.

I'd argue (looking at Canada which has far more guns per capita than we do) that it's not so much that we have them, it's that we abuse them.

Why, I myself have been shot at in a drive-by. Assholes.

But I don't really have an answer. Gun culture is so far outside of my experience that it's like Mars.

Date: 2008-09-17 10:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] antelope-writes.livejournal.com
Seriously. Immigration attorney is the way to go. If you're going for work, does your husband's company (I think it's him, right) have one on a leash?

Date: 2008-09-17 10:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] antelope-writes.livejournal.com
Under US laws? Hell yeah.

See, that's the problem--you're european. You're not hung up on silly rules that assume if you're not married, there's something WRONG WITH YOU and that you're evil and bad and not properly committed and subservient to a manly yet tender husband. You can go your entire life bidie-in, and it's perfectly okay, you godless soulless heathen. (/snark)

Seriously. It will be exponentially more difficult for you to get a visa if you are not married, and is another reason to find a good immigration attorney.

Date: 2008-09-17 10:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] antelope-writes.livejournal.com
I think you need to have an immigration party. As in, a Drink All My Beer, Eat All My Food, and Everybody Goes Home With a Souvenir party.

Best way to get rid of unnecessary crap before moving. Everybody thinks they're getting some thing special, and you don't have to move all that junk. The one I had went on for 6 hours(!) and reduced my load of junk significantly. My rules were if it wasn't something with a ton of sentimental value, wasn't something that could not be replaced at a similar or lesser cost than moving it (taking quality of workmanship into account), or wasn't something I absolutely had to take (e.g. birth certificate, etc), it stayed in North America.

Much better than a wedding party.

Date: 2008-09-17 11:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] off_coloratura
BTW, my husband and I got married for reasons of convenience too. It makes things SO much easier. Which, when he was in Iraq and I had to deal with bills and creditors and whatnot, was a very good thing.

Say "I'm his wife" on the phone and people give you all sorts of sensitive account information. It's kind of heady. POWER.

Date: 2008-09-17 11:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alba17.livejournal.com
I second that. Our immigration laws don't recognize any couples that aren't married.

Date: 2008-09-17 10:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] antelope-writes.livejournal.com
http://tinyurl.com/33rznu

That website is some FAQs related to green cards, including what to do when your green card is expired and you are overseas. It also recommends contacting the embassy or consulate for a list of who can give representation.

If nothing else, you need the representation because you are a commonlaw couple with dependent children. That'll throw a spanner in the works all on its own. My personal theory is screw the guns, the rules and tricky bits and catch-22s and all that are the things to be afraid of.

Date: 2008-09-17 10:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alba17.livejournal.com
LOL re: 6 weeks as the answer to any immigration question. Yeah, you used to be able to stay for 6 months as a tourist from the EU and people often overstayed (again, I don't know what the laws are now). But you couldn't work or be a student.
"American immigration officials scare the living shit out of me" - perfectly valid and reasonable. They scare me too! I know of too many situations in which someone was hauled away from a routine green card interview or re-entry into the country for an unknown and obscure infraction in their deep past, to be deported away from their family and the only country they've known, and unable to return, perhaps forever. And now the trend is to give local police the authority to enforce immigration law - crazy! Plus these people are petty law enforcement types or bureaucrats who understand only their limited little area. The whole system is very very bad, inhumane and severely underfinanced.
Oops, sorry about the rant!

Date: 2008-09-17 11:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alba17.livejournal.com
And jails and handcuffs. And you don't have a right to an attorney.

Date: 2008-09-17 09:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cionaudha.livejournal.com
We have great fried chicken though.

Date: 2008-09-17 10:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cionaudha.livejournal.com
And peanut butter.

You people *airy dismissive wave* know nothing about peanut butter.

Date: 2008-09-17 10:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cionaudha.livejournal.com
Gritty?

*shudder*

It's a true fact that the more peanuts go into the peanut butter, the worse it is. (Though it doesn't necessarily follow that the less the better.) I'm a Skippy girl. Just the right silky texture and just enough sugar.

Date: 2008-09-17 10:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] antelope-writes.livejournal.com
*hugs*
*passes margarita*

Do you have access to a lawyer? Lots of that shite is best resolved with a lawyer.

Date: 2008-09-17 10:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wiley-nilly.livejournal.com
Your social security number is yours - whether you've used it or not. The first 3 numbers are where you got it - in Mass? Probably begins 0**. The second 2 numbers are approximately when you got it in the region you got it. The last 4 numbers are your specifical numbers. (My dad worked for Social Security back in the day.)

If Mass is like PA on the driver's license front, your DL number is also your DL number forever. So, those are easy.

Green Card wise? Seek counsel. Council? As touchy as U.S. immigration is right now, I wouldn't want to mess with it. Srsly.

As for all us 'guys and gals' out here? I've had a couple offers of sponsorship in Canada, should lightening strike thrice. I'll be heading north. Srsly.

Date: 2008-09-18 12:29 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jo02
Thank you sooo much for saying what the rest of us think abou the U.S.

Drunk or not - just - thank you!
Edited Date: 2008-09-18 01:27 am (UTC)

Date: 2008-09-18 03:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meleth.livejournal.com
Sarah Palin is an evil, psychotic hosebeast. This has no particular relevance, but saying it as often as possible makes me feel a little bit better.

Date: 2008-09-18 07:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] temporal-tech.livejournal.com
I don't even know you, but I totally agree with this statement.

Date: 2008-09-18 12:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oneloveonelight.livejournal.com
Sarah Palin is indeed terrifying. Having Bush (who I'm sure is one part monkey and one part retarded) as a President and Palin as a VP candidate is so embarrassing. Beyond. Words.

I'm an American and I see your points completely. We are a nation that claims to be a "Christian Nation" and everything we do must involve God, otherwise it'll turn into a Middle Eastern Satanist Communist Socialist Homosexual Child-rapist Country. Or something just as ridiculous. I'm sick of it too. Heck, I'm probably being called a "terrorist" or a "traitor" right now by somebody reading my words. Makes me so ill.

Still, I think America's a great country. There's nothing wrong with the ideal vision of America... it's just that the vision that our founding fathers had of America is NOT what America is now. Too bad that slightly more than half of our citizens (the idiotic half that votes in people like Bush) don't realize that. But the rest of us are pretty cool.

Date: 2008-09-19 02:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boojumste.livejournal.com
Delurking to offer this quote from the 18th century:

"As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion - as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen, - and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arrising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."

--From Article XI of the Treaty of Peace and Friendship with Tripoli, ratified by the U.S. Senate on June 7, 1797.

The United States was never, is not, and hopefully never will be a Christian nation.

My father is a British citizen. Should that b*tch and that dottering old guy (he thinks that Spain is in Latin America and doesn't understand that it's a NATO power) get elected, I'm leaving. West Bumfuckistan can just sink without me. And I love this country. But there's only so much someone capable of abstract thought can take.

Date: 2008-09-19 12:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oneloveonelight.livejournal.com
Exactly. It's not supposed to be a Christian nation. Sensible people know this. Unfortunately, those that don't have sense can't be reasoned with because, to them, actual facts don't make sense. That's the problem with stupidity. You can't really reason with cretins because they don't have a capacity for it.

If it sounds like I'm bitter, I am. I, too, love America but I'm sad for what this nation has become.

Date: 2008-09-18 03:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mellacita.livejournal.com
Lawyers. Definitely. You couldn't pay me to try to sort out US immigration crap.

Is the US the only place that stamps your passport? or do you mean upon re-entry? 'Cause my two-year old passport was so full of stamps and visas that I just had to get new pages sewn in. :/

Date: 2008-09-21 03:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] virginhuntress.livejournal.com
America is pretty ridiculous in our rules and paperwork, I will definitely admit that. I really hope getting my EU citizenship won't be that ridiculous.

*sigh*

Also, Sarah Palin. Just... NO. NOT EVER. NO.

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