Journey's End... WHY?

[tencrush]

FUCK OFF RUSSELL!

Why ruin a perfectly crackingly good episode with two minutes of the gheyest most pointless fucking shit ever seen on TV?

I loved that episode, then I did a rather large sick in my mouth, then I loved it again. Can someone re-edit that for me so I can watch it again? Just cut out a minute and a half, and I'll be fine with it.

Comments

[fevervignettes.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I commented on the weight in Stolen Earth, because he looked like he had gained A LOT OF WEIGHT, and then in Journey's end, it looked fixed again, so I thought I was imagining it until I read your comment.

(I haven't been able to watch season 2 of Torchwood yet. *SIGH*)

[cionaudha.livejournal.com]

(I haven't been able to watch season 2 of Torchwood yet. *SIGH*)

*gasp*

So you haven't seen the source of that inspirational icon of yours? This is tragic!

[fevervignettes.livejournal.com]

It is ABSOLUTELY tragic.

I watched the first season of Who and then switched to Torchwood. When Jack got snatched, I decided to watch his Doctor Who episodes before switching back, which required me to watch season two, and then season three. And then everyone was raving about season four and I was determined to get caught up by the finale, and.......here I am. Missing my Torchwood enormously.

Of course, since Who is done for now, I can return home to my lovelies gladly.

[cionaudha.livejournal.com]

Oh, do come home. They miss you so!

Spectacularly fun (but hours too short) season! Are you spoiled?

[fevervignettes.livejournal.com]

Oh yes. Entirely. Wikipedia will be the end of me, I swear.

[cionaudha.livejournal.com]

I salute your strength in not watching endless youtube clips. Unless you have. ;-)

Your icons are adorable. :-D


Oh yes. Entirely.

And if that's a Lawrence of Arabia shout-out, I'll give you a giant chocolate chip cookie.

[fevervignettes.livejournal.com]

I haven't hit youtube yet. I was watching the finale and thought oh please please please let them be a couple and went on Wikipedia to read up, like I always do. =D

Heee, thanks. I have a srs icon obsession.

And unfortunately, no cookie for me- I've never seen Lawrence of Arabia because I am full of teh suck. =[

[cionaudha.livejournal.com]

They are an undeniable couple. Which makes my queer-friendly heart burst with glee. It's right there on television, bitches! A big damn hero and his beloved, kicking ass and saving the world!

*gives you cookie anyway, for bondage icon*

[fevervignettes.livejournal.com]

Yay bondage-icon-cookie gifting.

They are so so so incredibly cute. And out! Thats one of the reasons I love Torchwood- there is so much of the gay everywhere- its amazing.

[cionaudha.livejournal.com]

Out without "issues" is the best part.

Well, mostly without issues... coughFragmentscough.

[tencrush]

*frowns*
Who has issues in Fragments?

[cionaudha.livejournal.com]

Ianto freaks out when he realizes that Jack makes him happy in his pants.

[tencrush]

I know, but surely those are adultery issues and not queer issues? Ianto's never really struck me as having any queer issues, but then Ianto's always struck me as a guy who's pretty secure about his sexuality.

[cionaudha.livejournal.com]

I read it as 90% adultery issues and 10% OMG I'M BETWEEN HIS LEGS AND I CAN FEEL HIS DICK AND IT FEELS GOOD AND I'M SO OUTTA HERE OMG.

He was prepared to whore himself for Lisa, but not prepared to enjoy it. I agree that Ianto's sexually confident, but under those circumstances a bit of freak can be expected.

[fevervignettes.livejournal.com]

Yeah. I srsly srsly SRSLY need to start season two tonight.

*SO EXCITED*

[cionaudha.livejournal.com]

Yes. You. DO.

[fevervignettes.livejournal.com]

Well.I.WILL. =P

[cionaudha.livejournal.com]

Psht, I bet you won't.

[fevervignettes.livejournal.com]

OH.NO.YOU.DIDN'T.

LOLZ.

You're going to be eating your words later.

[cionaudha.livejournal.com]

We'll see.

[fevervignettes.livejournal.com]

Oh yes. Yes you will.

[fevervignettes.livejournal.com]

HAHA, I have a Ianto-Eyeroll icon too! <3

[cionaudha.livejournal.com]

It's not his fault if everyone he knows is an idiot. :-D

[tencrush]

Hmm, I guess I could understand the 10% bit, but I never saw it that way. In as much as I didn't read that scene as saying here is the moment Ianto realises he's bi. Mainly because I think Ianto's far too secure in himself as a person to be clueless about his own leanings. He knows what he wants, he's prepared to do whatever to get it, he's clever and incredibly confident and all of that, personalitywise, for me doesn't really fit with a guy who at the same time has no clue that he's bisexual. I realise my "Ianto's a big dominant alpha male" opinions may be clouding my judgement on that one, but no, I don't think Ianto didn't know he was bi when he set out to seduce Jack.

I think he was prepared to whore himself out for Lisa, but he wasn't prepared to enjoy it, yeah. I think the fact that he enjoyed it therefore freaked him out but I don't think the fact that Jack is a guy as opposed to a girl made that fact any better or worse for him.

[cionaudha.livejournal.com]

No, I agree that it's mostly the whoredom issue: that's where the tears of shame and humiliation come from, at the end of that scene when he's offered the job.

But the quick getaway --"I should go"-- seems like not the Moment He Realizes but the Moment It Leaves the Realm of the Theoretical. GDL says (and I take his word for it) that Jack is Ianto's first man. Which, taken unaware as he was, and embroiled in an economy-size heartache as he was, would take some mental adaptation.