Why a whelk...

I'll reply in bullets too...mainly so I can keep track because my mind is...somewhere else right now...

- I think the CBC thing might be related to the 5/6 episode thing. I bet BBCA does kick in eventually, but I doubt they'd ask for changes. If ain't broke and all. If it's related to Who and what BBC1 can commission, it would make sense too. BBC is in the crapper budget wise. It may not effect Who, but a BBC2 show filling the slot of a BBC1 juggernaut? Yeah, I could see budget restraints effected that. No matter what, I believe season 4 will be back to normal. And I do believe both seasons will be commissioned. Unless they really are that stupid.

- I still don't believe it's the reset. They'd need to include the entire cast of SJA too, otherwise Sarah Jane loses her kid and her soon to be new love interest (he's got to be, right?). It was done already last season, and truthfully, there is nothing substantiated that would support it. In fact, I think the reset stuff all came from speculation, not an actual rumor or spoiler. On the other hand, the "Nyssa's big line" stuff does intrigue me. That one actually came from a reputable source. If someone already introduced (or about to be) isn't "the doctor all along," what could that relate to. Somebody was someone all along. That's what I'm thinking. And I'm looking to Who this season, and not Ianto. Not matter how much I want to. (It all comes back to Ianto, doesn't it?)

-I agree that if everyone is in the TARDIS, then the reset wouldn't hurt Torchwood. Except Tosh would be locked up, and Owen would be...who knows, and Lisa would be out there...and Suzie...the more I think about it, the more problems I think a reset would cause, and I'm certain RTD is aware of this.

-I think Owen and Tosh's deaths were Rusty's idea. He's been wanting to do a shocking death, and there's nothing like two at once. It was his own personal contest with Whedon (who, like Ianto, didn't even know there was one), and Rusty wins. But only because Whedon was such a dick when he killed someone. Whedon's is longer, but Rusty's got more girth, me thinks.

-not a big gay cgi monster, just a small one (the big D, hopefully). And if it is the big D, then I hope it's as cheesy as he can be, cause that's what he should be.

-Okay, now my little rant about the latest news of dearest Gareth. So, I just got back from a Raconteurs show, and they are hands down the best live rock band out there. See them if you can. I think it should be the law for music fans. This was my third time seeing them. Excellent. Every time. Ask someone else who's seen them. Excellent. Every time. What they do is just...amazing, brilliant, transcendental....there are not enough superlatives to talk about their live show. What they do? Is heavy blues. Yeah, that thing Gareth like to use to describe his band. These guys are perfecting it. Jack White is a god. A blues god. And Patrick Keeler, the drummer, and Brendan Benson are no slouches. I needed a lot more than a cigarette after that show. Damn!

And then I get home, can't sleep because of fucking Jack White and his kick ass drummer...I love them both from the tips of my toes to the tips of my motherfucking hair. I get home, and read a brief recap of Orgee :eyeroll: What. The. Fuck? I just had my universe rocked by a man who showed about as much skin as Ianto in CJH. Seriously. He was in black pants, a black shirt and waistcoat, and a gold tie. In fact, less skin, because his sleeves were rolled up a bit, but his top button was still done. And Gareth pulled his pants down for a spanking and flashed his willie? Lovely. Hey Gareth! You may never be Jack White on stage, but you can cream the panties of your fangirls while still keeping your pants on. Just play the fucking blues dude. Play. The fucking. Blues.

And drop your pants at the conventions. They'll appreciate it more...and I'll be more likely to be there ;-)

Sorry that was so long, but I'm tired, and senseless, and...GAH!

Thank God for spellcheck.

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I only recently noticed that season 4 of Who wasn't a CBC co-production, and then I went back and checked TW S2 and that wasn't either. I never actually heard anything about any of that, and I'm wondering what made them pull out. I find it suspicious that all this scaling back business is happening just as BBC Wales have a solo produced season of each under their belt.

As for Gareth, I have a theory that he's suffering from what I like to call Graham Coxon Syndrome. My frame of reference very often harks back to early 90's Britpop, I'm afraid, but I think I'll expand on that theory and actually write it down in a day or two. It makes sense in MY head, and that's all that matters.

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I find it suspicious that all this scaling back business is happening just as BBC Wales have a solo produced season of each under their belt.

Yep. Very, very interesting.

As for Gareth, I have a theory that he's suffering from what I like to call Graham Coxon Syndrome.

Blur's Graham Coxon? I don't know much about the band outside of Albarn. I'd love to hear this.

It makes sense in MY head, and that's all that matters.

Too true. I'm sure it will make sense. Looking at my earlier reply, I'm surprised it was coherent at all. Man, I was blabbering on.

By the way, have you seen the complete Q&A videos for The Rift? I think the squee went to a lot of girl's heads. For instance, JM didn't compare his cock to Gareth's. He said essentially that they were close, but not that close. Gareth was cracking on JM's string theory lecture. Basically, more posturing. Given that we may now have photos...which I hope someone has the guts to share with the class...this may be a moot issue.

Also, Gareth hinted strongly that he had deals in the US that fell through because of the writer's strike, and he admitted his band was (direct quote) "not very good." He seemed a lot more humble and self-deprecating than I expected. The night show was another matter altogether.

And his answer about being on Who still came off as Rusty-ease to me, but his body language made me pause. He changed. His started stuttering and physically closed down when he was answering. Lying bastard.

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By the way, have you seen the complete Q&A videos for The Rift? I think the squee went to a lot of girl's heads. For instance, JM didn't compare his cock to Gareth's. He said essentially that they were close, but not that close.

I think that was me who mentioned talk of a comparison. *embarrassed* In my own defense, I was just going on memory since I did my report before any videos were up. Thank goodness for video. :) Rewatching there were things I didn't even remember hearing. The acoustics were really bad too, so if you were in the queues at the time some answers were a little hard to hear.

I did notice the body language about Who too, though. His response made me think it was pretty likely he would be on.

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I heard about the acoustics, but when I heard the video it really brought it home. I'm glad that girl up front was taking such good notes. I had to replay the first Q&A several times to make it out. The second had the benefit of a transcript. Beautiful room, terrible sound.

You weren't the only one. I saw other reports that said the same. I was trying to be witty, but certainly meant no disrespect to you gals. Given the chaos that was reported, I'm surprised we got what we did.

Since you were there, I'm trying to understand the layout. In relation to the stage, which side was photos and which was autographs? Someone said the autographs were in the back of the hall, but I didn't see any curtains back there.

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my cool visual aid did not work with html, oops. Sorry for the nonsensical comment. (and don't worry I didn't feel disrespected. I hate misinformation so I hate being the one to spread it inadvertently!)

Anyway, it was all in one room, no curtains, nothing. Stage front, photos immediately to stage right, about 15-20 rows of seats, back tables for merchandise and aurographs against the back wall and right wall. Qeues everywhere. It was slightly...disorganized. If it hadn't been for the guests being so open and funny and Kai and GDL improv later that night I would have been a lot more crtical. It was a bit of a mess, tbh.

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That's pretty insane a set up. I can understand why so many people were saying they'd never do a JM Live event again.

On the other hand, there's something so Torchwood about it it makes me wanna laugh. Even the conventions are chaotic, but beautiful crack.

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tencrush

I haven't seen the videos yet, no, you left a link somewhere, right?

Blur's Graham Coxon, yes. Very talented musician, he could never really get his head around Blur's screaming 12-year-old contingent of fans, and coped with it in a variety of interesting ways, most of which involved getting drunk and falling over. I shall gather my thoughts overnight and see what comes out.

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I think I left links at DWF.

The only complete videos are the two with Gareth. Score!
http://silverspirit-17.livejournal.com/96744.html

I was able to rip the vids. Since the girl said she was going to set up a download link I didn't think it a big deal. The rips sounded clearer than posted videos. If you're having too much trouble with the posted vids, I can zip my copies and send them to you.

At the end of this post has a complete, and very accurate, transcript of the JM and GDL Q&A. The only error I found was that Gareth did get Aronofsky's name correct, but it was obscure enough that I was amazed she got it as close as she did. And this was just from notes!
http://purplephoenix03.livejournal.com/278920.html#cutid7

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I love it when you put your theorising-hat on!

I also love it when you give us polls.

I'm thinking we need a new poll, devised around your wonderful theories above, yes?

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Your theories make a lot of sense, though I can't say it would thrill me to see them come to fruition.

As for Orgee, I know someone who was there but she is at collectormania today so will have to wait for the first hand accounts (although coming from me it would be a second hand account so....).

ITA with above. I am all for GDL flashing his anatomy and being dirty, but I wouldn't mind his music being better. His a capella voice is really lovely when he's not shrieking.

Or, better yet, perhaps trying to find some manner of acting job. Or pursuing more pectoral definition. Something like that. :|

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Poor Gareth, eveyone's having a go now. I shall defend him tomorrow when I have time to type up my all-encompassing Theory Of GDL. We still love you, dude, button nose and flab and all.

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I adore the guy, don't get me wrong. maybe am just jellus I didn't get to smack his ass with a whip myself 'cause I had to come home on Wednesday. :P

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tencrush

I could never smack his arse with a whip, the temptation to just drop the whip and sink my teeth into it would be too great.

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You could always bite the whip marks? He might like it.

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Agreed. I may be pissed and disappointed, but I still adore the bastard.

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ITA with above. I am all for GDL flashing his anatomy and being dirty, but I wouldn't mind his music being better. His a capella voice is really lovely when he's not shrieking.

Or, better yet, perhaps trying to find some manner of acting job. Or pursuing more pectoral definition. Something like that. :|

Big fat WORD to all of this.

That's what gets me. If I didn't think he had some sort of potential I wouldn't care. But when I hear the awesome bluesy tone in his voice, and remember that great cover of Roadhouse Blues from last summer it just guts me that this is what he's resorted to. He could really have a decent side project if he would stop dicking around and just sing and play.

I'm starting to wonder if he can get jobs in the UK. Watching that video just served to highlight how American he comes off. His style may not work there as well. Which is sad, and interesting at the same time. Doesn't mean there aren't projects opening up in the US right now. I mean, a quarter of the IATSE (crew) workers in LA are still unemployed, but there is a ton of work in Texas right now...just sayin'

I did let off a bit of a squee when he did that rather good impersonation of JM. He's got American accents in his arsenal. Yay!

And yes, the gym is his friend. He doesn't have to look like JB, but the moobs have got to go. For Ianto's sake.

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I didn't notice his coming off as American, but then, since I am American who has lived in the UK, it might not have been as apparent to me. must rewatch. Poor me.

I wonder if it has to do with doing a lot of his acting with JB and a fair amount of stuff with Jm. His accent was pretty good, and I asked him during my autograph if he had ever been to the US and he said "no, not properly." (I did wonder how one goes to the US improperly--perhaps a flight layover) He said he was pysched about going, though. Perhaps he can extend his San Diego trip a bit and hit up some casting directors in LA while he is there.

It's funny that in person he is very thin (I was sort of stunned when I first saw him, how someone like that could look so much bigger on screen), just not with the definition one sees and expects from actors I suppose. I've met or worked with a fair amount of actors and he isn't really any bigger than most of them, just carries weight differently or something. And he has developed a little bit of a beer belly. I really hope he doesn't stumble on this post in his search for janto porn, btw. If so, don't worry, Gareth. You're still hot. Also, stop screaming and sing. And get a new agent. And also, pull your trousers up (or down). Either one.

As an aside, Not like I can talk wrt to the puffiness/extra poundage, but then again, my career doesn't depend on it.

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I didn't notice his coming off as American, but then, since I am American who has lived in the UK, it might not have been as apparent to me. must rewatch. Poor me.

For me, it was comparing him to most of the people I've known from the UK, although none of them Welsh. Maybe it's a quality of the Welsh, but he came off as a lot more open and with a bit of an...I don't know how to describe it except to say an American attitude (a certain kind of harmless arrogance?). Of course, my experience is with them coming over here. I've known people from all over though. England, Scotland, Northern Ireland (and Ireland). Actors included. I bet you're right about exposure to JB and JM being a factor.

The "properly" comment is interesting. Layover probably, or maybe a weekend in New York. A lot of my foreign friends say going to New York isn't like the US for them. They see Manhattan as a giant tourist trap/ movie set. But then, they've seen a lot more of the US.

It's funny that in person he is very thin (I was sort of stunned when I first saw him, how someone like that could look so much bigger on screen), just not with the definition one sees and expects from actors I suppose.

You aren't the first person I've read that from. I do wonder if some of it may simply be that he's lost a lot of the weight since November. He does look thinner on the video. But yeah, the camera really does add weight. Definition helps. As does putting down the beer. He has to know that his metabolism isn't getting any faster.

I feel ya on the extra poundage, but I really do need to lose it for my work. Thankfully though, a lot of mine was medical weight gain. Now that I'm being treated, my weight has dropped dramatically...and without adding any extra activity. It's like my birthday a every two weeks when I step on a scale! hee

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I feel ya on the extra poundage, but I really do need to lose it for my work. Thankfully though, a lot of mine was medical weight gain. Now that I'm being treated, my weight has dropped dramatically...and without adding any extra activity. It's like my birthday a every two weeks when I step on a scale! hee

much of mine is too, but we (assorted medical professionals, trainers and me) are having a devil of a time getting it off, even now that I am being treated. I keep at it, though. The only way it really affects my work though is little kids in schools in China where I work asking me embarrassing questions. :/

Would you mind if I friended you? I have been trying to meet other TW fans these past few months and your comments are insightful and interesting. *edited to take out comment about whipping and Orgee because I wasn't there so what do I know* But I have found it difficult to meet other TW fans on LJ, which is odd since I have been pretty active in other fandoms over the last 4 years here.

Edited Date: 2008-05-05 04:02 pm (UTC)

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Do keep at it. I don't know how long you've been in treatment, but it took about 4 months before mine started to drop. Have you adjusted your diet? One of the things that really helped me was drastically cutting the refined carbs. You can't but them all because you need a small amount, but I hardly ever eat potatoes or bread any more (previous staples) and I've really cut back on the rice. On the other hand, I get all the fruits and vegetables I want, and all the meat and cheese I want. Not too bad.

Friend away! I don't have a lot going on my journal...yet (hopefully soon...maybe?), but I do try to keep up with my friends' journals.

What gets me the most is that Gareth doesn't realize what he's doing, and the type of fan he is feeding with that kind of behavior. I've seen it before (well, not with whips), and I know where this can go, and it scares me a bit.

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Yeah, cutting the refined carbs has been the first line of action. I've done a decent job of it, but there is definitely room for improvment. Also I have had back injuries that have limited my activity and therefore my metabolism. I found that dragging myself all over the UK really made a difference, even though it was really painful at times. It was a sort of kick-start that I am trying to capitalize on now that I am back home.

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I really hope he doesn't stumble on this post in his search for janto porn, btw. If so, don't worry, Gareth. You're still hot. Also, stop screaming and sing. And get a new agent. And also, pull your trousers up (or down). Either one.

Just to clarify, I was just playing around. Of course I would love this stuff but I don't harbor any hopes he would do anything because some random fan on the internet joked about it.

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nooooo...i love the moobs!

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Dear Lord, the camera doesn't, though. Someone complaining, as he is, about a lack of work, should give the beer and the baccy a rest and visit the inside of a gym, either that or STFU.

And, yes, I know he's not fat, but he's pasty and undefined, and that's showing on camera. ONLY on camera and not IRL, but on camera nonetheless.

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Orgee -

literally just got home, have not slept since Saturday morning so that's...32 hours and counting??? may be a bit rambling...

there was nudity, sex, crazy fangirls, whipping and threats of violence. Gareth was involved in all of the above.

Yes, Gareth was whipped. Several times. He must have enjoyed it, because he willingly agreed to a replay when I asked him. His arse was bright red with severe marks across it and I believe his yelp of pain was rather genuine!

Cock came out, however, not to audience, as he was showing it to Nick (Disgracelands) as he was performing. I was next to him, but sadly, he made sure there was no view of it. Maybe someone else caught him at a different moment?

There was a lovely interchange during his set:
Fangirl - I've met John Barrowman!
Gareth - Really? What's he like?
Bassist Rhys - You;ve had his cock.....up your bum....your bum bum...
Gareth - He's average...I've seen better...*pause* in the mirror...

ok, that may seem geeky i remember it, but only because we've been repeating it to ourselves all day long, it was hilarious!

gig was awesome if cut short and Gareth was blooming furious, so we left him to stew. Great fun !There is more, but not cock-related, as far as I know. :)

Although he does have a lovely little beer belly. :)

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Did we meet last night? I've lost track of who we spoke to!

I think Gareth has been spending a little too much time with JB!

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quite possibly....there was a number of people i spoke to but i lost track of names...

i can't believe i'm still awake, i've been up since saturday 8am......

um...green top, jeans, hanging out with carrie (short hair, red skull dress)and spent a lot of time with nic and spence...

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And ruth? I think maybe we were together for a while?

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yes! delightful ruth...she's a gem.

I'm sorry, i spoke to a few people last night....were you one of the girls at the table, or from outside on the bench? Or totally random elsewhere? Gah, I was so hyper last night i kept talking nonsense to anyone and everyone....

oh and me thinks James Marsters may also have had something to do with Gareth's....err.....insatiable appetite? :P

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We were out on the bench. You were all very good company for the short time we were together. And Ruth was indeed delightful!

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Do I take it you guys didn't manage to find somewhere to stay last night?

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