I'M WORKING ON IT...

[tencrush]

Just rewatching some episodes to get some inspiration re. Ianto and what I am now calling his alpha-in-training-ness. Wow. He is the weirdest character, dudes. He's never on screen, he's always physically reserved and he doesn't say much, but when he does he COMMANDS attention, it's way more blatant than I thought it would be.

But anyway, I'm getting a bit distracted, so I'll just post random things in the meantime.

Watch this scene from Day One again.
"None of you have partners?" says Gwen. And LOOK! Jack was totally going to say something and then he shuts his mouth and changes his mind.



He's so doing the teaboy already at this point in time.

Comments

[kurthummel.livejournal.com]

I like your conspiratorial (if that's the word) mind, but the one thing that keeps me from believing they were shagging pre-TKKS, or even pre-Cyberwoman, was the part from the lunch table in 1x02 when they talk about Jack's orientation. Ianto says he doesn't care in that very precise way - "And I don't care." But then again, this is bisexual, post-Fragments Ianto, so who knows?

[tencrush]

This IS indeed, bisexual, post-Fragments "51st century pheromones" Ianto, who also says he thinks Jack was with the CIA, when he knows full well where Jack is from and knows he'll shag anything and has even USED that fact to his advantage in getting the job in the first place.

And the "I don't care" is such a blatant, and very carefully placed and vehemently stated conversation killer, it's frightening. It's not the last time Ianto seems to know EXACTLY what to say to get people to do what he wants, or get his point across, I even had a brief theory during series one that if Ianto had studied anything, it was psychology. See also the "I clean up your shit" speech, which is again a hugely well-placed blow to Jack, and it's Ianto hitting Jack precisely where he knows it'll hurt (and I maintain it hurts more, because there was already some involvement between them on a sexual level, and STILL Jack had never bothered to ask him about his life.)

[nikki4noo.livejournal.com]

I can see your point here - it's why I don't believe anything of Ianto's 'facts' that were revealed in Fragments. I think there is much more to him than we have been told. He was much more than a junior researcher at TW1 in my opinion.

He's almost as good as Jack and John at deflecting conversations/questions . Jack and John do it via flirting, Ianto uses pithy little statements.

[kurthummel.livejournal.com]

I always love the points you make. I think that's why I generally dig reading your TW posts, they always seem to align with my thoughts, I just can never verbalize the way I feel.

Anyway, I shouldn't be shocked Ianto would be doing so much bluffing business given he was HIDING A CYBER GIRL IN THE BASEMENT. It's a funny thing to have a giggle on, though, when you look back. From episode one, the bisexual streak within Ianto was really cemented, which is why I personally think Jack/Ianto are one of the most interesting elements on TW. Their attraction has never been in-your-face and obvious like Jack and Gwen. It's been winknudges, stopwatch innuendo, little bits with a hockey stick, and the occasional make out session. Every week, too, we get a new Captain's Blog (which I do regard as canon), though let's not even go on about that one. I'm of the opinion, too, that the writers often times shove the Jack and Ianto crap in the entries and leave the frolicking within the actual show ambiguous and empty. Don't think they should be eyeballing each other or Gwen and Rhys, but I'm falling into that stage, again, where I'm just sort of not satisfied, especially since Jack was buried for 1900 years and didn't show any ramifications.

[love-jackianto.livejournal.com]

'...where I'm just sort of not satisfied, especially since Jack was buried for 1900 years and didn't show any ramifications.'
Yeah. I get the feeling that if they even mention it in Series three it will be glossed over.

'Every week, too, we get a new Captain's Blog (which I do regard as canon), though let's not even go on about that one. I'm of the opinion, too, that the writers often times shove the Jack and Ianto crap in the entries and leave the frolicking within the actual show ambiguous and empty.'
I know what you mean. I would have loved a scene like the one in the Captain's Blog for Adift where Jack said he held Ianto as tight as he could.

[antelope-writes.livejournal.com]

Maybe not psychology, but that kind of emotional heartstring-twisting is the kind of stuff addicts do. They get really, really, really good at finding your weak spots and manipulating you to do what they want.