K, even if I do buy that it's not romantic love, isn't sleeping with someone who has way deep emotional feelings for you, which you clearly don't reciprocate as intensely, still pretty icky? Maybe even a bit ickier?
If you were aware of it and knew it would never change and said well fuck em'? Yes, that would be super icky.
I don't think Jack has any real idea of how messed up he acts sometimes or that he is behaving in a way that could be perceieved as dismissive. And unless Jack is forced to he has trouble showing any real emotion to anyone (Other than his serious fear of abandonment. That emotion is coming in loud and clear with Gwen and Owen). Jack is messed up and I think Ianto knows that Jack has a long way to go, but is willing to try and stick it out with him (for now). If the future holds no growth or change and Ianto starts to look miserable, but continues to put up with it, then that becomes unhealthy. I just think with all their baggage (as individuals and together) they are still in the very early stages of this relationship and neither of them have a clear definition of it.
And everything I'm saying here is me trying very hard to not let my little over-zealous fangirl take totally control who wants to just pop out and scream "Jack you Bastard! how can you not love and adore Ianto, and lay at his feet in worship everyday cause he is so pretty and awesome?" (she is very loud and has had faaaar too much sugar) cause I like to believe that the characters have more going on than just what appears at times and that they are capable of growing and changing. Time will tell, and if they turn out to be just flat caricatures, well, I won't be watching for very long.
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Date: 2008-03-07 08:14 pm (UTC)If you were aware of it and knew it would never change and said well fuck em'? Yes, that would be super icky.
I don't think Jack has any real idea of how messed up he acts sometimes or that he is behaving in a way that could be perceieved as dismissive. And unless Jack is forced to he has trouble showing any real emotion to anyone (Other than his serious fear of abandonment. That emotion is coming in loud and clear with Gwen and Owen). Jack is messed up and I think Ianto knows that Jack has a long way to go, but is willing to try and stick it out with him (for now). If the future holds no growth or change and Ianto starts to look miserable, but continues to put up with it, then that becomes unhealthy. I just think with all their baggage (as individuals and together) they are still in the very early stages of this relationship and neither of them have a clear definition of it.
And everything I'm saying here is me trying very hard to not let my little over-zealous fangirl take totally control who wants to just pop out and scream "Jack you Bastard! how can you not love and adore Ianto, and lay at his feet in worship everyday cause he is so pretty and awesome?" (she is very loud and has had faaaar too much sugar) cause I like to believe that the characters have more going on than just what appears at times and that they are capable of growing and changing. Time will tell, and if they turn out to be just flat caricatures, well, I won't be watching for very long.