ITA, and I also believe that standing up and drawing public attention to this defamatory shit is absolutely right: it's the same reason I posted the other day. I take being branded a racist very seriously, as do you being branded a bad parent. I think these things transcend the usual volleys of name-calling, most of which are playground-level subjective - being called a troll or a paranoid stalker is so-what, being called a misogynist (in my case) is too laughably manifestly untrue to be worth a reaction.
The 'racist' or 'bad parent' tags, though, are insidious libel, they seep into the fabric of online folklore, even when the original accusers, when put on the spot, wriggle and admit they can't exactly prove it about the people they're libelling behind the anonymity, that it's just a kind of implication achieved with a 1+1=bullshit logic-leap.
And since your attempts to respond in the past have been trashed with the 'unprettying / attention whore' shout-down, and I've been banned wholesale for criticising the moderating there, then what should we do? Shut up, turn the other cheek and have our reputations trashed by name there, in profoundly offensive ways - and that defamation endorsed (if not encouraged) by the mods? Or speak out about it on our own journals?
So yep, I'm going to carry on making a record of anything like that, any time they aim their malice at me, for any reason. You can see from the immediate reaction your recent posts (and to a lesser extent mine) have had, how furious it makes at least some of the most malicious regulars there, so all the more reason to keep it up. Like calling them a shoal of cunts does - and like you, I don't have a problem with 'cunt' as a word, call me a cunt and I'll shrug that off along with troll or attention whore.
Which reminds me - why isn't the meme eating its own for using the word 'whore' as an insult? Isn't that an evil, sexist, disgusting thing to do? But you know, *they* think calling someone a slang term for female genitals is THE worst insult imaginable, which reveals a whole shoal of ingrained bias right there, so I'll just have to carry on doing it.
And I think you're right that the whole mess seems to be dying a slow death right now - it's interesting that even the broadcast of a new episode of DW, after months of nothing, generated significantly less discussion on the meme than the post-CoE fallout - or, indeed, than the usual wank about the meme's regular bogey wank subjects. I'm also muchly amused by the notion that if anyone either criticises the meme there, or speaks up for any public critics, then it can only be you or I posting anon there. I can't speak for you (!) but I know I'm not posting there - hell, why would I? Criticism of the collective, no matter how reasonable and calmly expressed, gets deleted hastily, for one thing. I also have all the space I need to post on my own blog, free from the mods' censorship and in a place where 'anon' is in effect banned from commenting. But since every time negative opinions are expressed, the paranoid mods stick IP lgging back on and all the little chickenshits run back into their hidey-holes and the whole shoal dies a coward's death for a few hours, then it's all looking good from where I stand.
I hope more people do have the courage to go public about what a steaming dung-heap of nasty hypocrisy the whole meme is, though I can understand why most who dislike the meme don't want the inevitable dogpile that incurs. But the more people do, the less easy it will be for anyone participating there to avert their eyes and pretend it's just really the nicest, bestest meme evar, and that any teeny-tiny little problems must lie only with freaks and, um, attention wh*r*s.
[eta, sorry, crazy typos! I've got a little viral something or other keeping me oiff work at the moment. High temperature seems to be frying my synapses...]
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Date: 2009-11-24 05:21 pm (UTC)The 'racist' or 'bad parent' tags, though, are insidious libel, they seep into the fabric of online folklore, even when the original accusers, when put on the spot, wriggle and admit they can't exactly prove it about the people they're libelling behind the anonymity, that it's just a kind of implication achieved with a 1+1=bullshit logic-leap.
And since your attempts to respond in the past have been trashed with the 'unprettying / attention whore' shout-down, and I've been banned wholesale for criticising the moderating there, then what should we do? Shut up, turn the other cheek and have our reputations trashed by name there, in profoundly offensive ways - and that defamation endorsed (if not encouraged) by the mods? Or speak out about it on our own journals?
So yep, I'm going to carry on making a record of anything like that, any time they aim their malice at me, for any reason. You can see from the immediate reaction your recent posts (and to a lesser extent mine) have had, how furious it makes at least some of the most malicious regulars there, so all the more reason to keep it up. Like calling them a shoal of cunts does - and like you, I don't have a problem with 'cunt' as a word, call me a cunt and I'll shrug that off along with troll or attention whore.
Which reminds me - why isn't the meme eating its own for using the word 'whore' as an insult? Isn't that an evil, sexist, disgusting thing to do? But you know, *they* think calling someone a slang term for female genitals is THE worst insult imaginable, which reveals a whole shoal of ingrained bias right there, so I'll just have to carry on doing it.
And I think you're right that the whole mess seems to be dying a slow death right now - it's interesting that even the broadcast of a new episode of DW, after months of nothing, generated significantly less discussion on the meme than the post-CoE fallout - or, indeed, than the usual wank about the meme's regular bogey wank subjects. I'm also muchly amused by the notion that if anyone either criticises the meme there, or speaks up for any public critics, then it can only be you or I posting anon there. I can't speak for you (!) but I know I'm not posting there - hell, why would I? Criticism of the collective, no matter how reasonable and calmly expressed, gets deleted hastily, for one thing. I also have all the space I need to post on my own blog, free from the mods' censorship and in a place where 'anon' is in effect banned from commenting. But since every time negative opinions are expressed, the paranoid mods stick IP lgging back on and all the little chickenshits run back into their hidey-holes and the whole shoal dies a coward's death for a few hours, then it's all looking good from where I stand.
I hope more people do have the courage to go public about what a steaming dung-heap of nasty hypocrisy the whole meme is, though I can understand why most who dislike the meme don't want the inevitable dogpile that incurs. But the more people do, the less easy it will be for anyone participating there to avert their eyes and pretend it's just really the nicest, bestest meme evar, and that any teeny-tiny little problems must lie only with freaks and, um, attention wh*r*s.
[eta, sorry, crazy typos! I've got a little viral something or other keeping me oiff work at the moment. High temperature seems to be frying my synapses...]