MY RANDOM WHO AND TORCHWOOD PREDICTIONS

[tencrush]

I've got a few random predictions floating around my head, so I thought I'd spew them out here for posterity. They're based on absolutely nothing, apart from vague gut feelings.

• Moffat's Who will have TWO companions. Boy/girl. Mainly because Moffat can't resist being a bit different and can't help injecting a bit of sitcom-esque bitching and UST into the TARDIS, which, having logically taken the Doctor-has-a-penis thing to its zenith, would have to involve two other people. Moffat's great strength is writing for multiple characters, he needs various personalities to bounce around and I am nearly 100% certain about this prediction.


• The girl will be a Sally Sparrow-esque capable mix of clever and ballsy and cute, I wouldn't actually rule out Sally Sparrow herself, just because Moffat's a joker like that. The boy will be Ianto. Okay, so that last bit's about 80% wishful thinking, but I'm not ruling it out completely because I'm just... not.


• Jack will leave Torchwood at the end of TW series 3. This ties in with my prediction that Jack and Ianto will split up during series 3, but possibly for reasons you're not expecting. John is actually leaving Torchwood behind, but I have a hunch he features in one of the three Who specials, as I believe Jack's story will be tied up BEFORE the eventual regeneration. I don't believe Jack will ever interact with Eleven.


• Taking all those things together, yeah, Torchwood as we know it is coming to an end after series 3. I don't actually believe anyone is interested in taking the show any further, specifically I don't believe John or Eve are interested in doing another series, and I think retooling it is NOT actually an option. This whole idea of a family-friendly show called "Torchwood" in the BBC's early saturday evening slot is NOT going to happen, the BBC would be far too nervous about leading the kiddies it's aimed at astray when they innocently ask Santa for the series one and two dvd's for Christmas. It's not happening. Torchwood will be disbanded at the end of series three, the Hub, blowed up and revealed to the world, will stay blowed up. ETA Again: the possibility of a BBC1 post-watershed thing is still there, yes, but I'll wait and see if Bonekickers gets recomissioned to see if Beeb1 is really aiming for a prime time LOLDrama slot, and even if they ARE doing so, that would involve, like Bonekickers, a 6-episode run, 8 at best, and I don't think Barrowman would be willing to sign for that short a series.


That's it. That's my view of where this is going. I have these urges sometimes to just post things up so I can point at them later and tell people I was right, and this is one of those times. Don't take it as anything more than that. And no, I don't know any more than you do about anything at all.

ETA:
• I wasn't going to put this in because I thought it was too weird, but the more I think about it, the more sense it makes, and because dick_grayson seems to be on a frighteningly similar wavelength, I'm going to go for: Voluntary retconning for Ianto at the end of TW series 3. For some reason or other to do with his family. It just seems to sit right for me somehow, and I think it's when we'll finally find out what's going on with him and Jack and to what extent. The reason I didn't want to put it in is because it's eerily similar to Donna's story in Who S4, and I figured it didn't make sense to do that again, but the more I think about it, the more I realise that sort of thing hasn't exactly stopped them before. The reason I think it might happen is because it's a good way to put Ianto on ice as a character, but not rule out a possible return somewhere in the franchise at some point in time. So, yeah, I'm definitely putting this one in. That is my S3 ending prediction.

Comments

[love-jackianto.livejournal.com]

'# The boy will be Ianto. Okay, so that last bit's about 80% wishful thinking, but I'm not ruling it out completely because I'm just... not.'
I like the way you think. I would love to see Ianto as a companion; I'd just love to see more of Ianto in general. If Torchwood ends after series 3 (you've been right before) that would at least take some of the sting out of it.

[qthewetsprocket.livejournal.com]

Moffat's Who will have TWO companions.

dear gods let this be true.

[kelspots.livejournal.com]

I have these urges sometimes to just post things up so I can point at them later and tell people I was right, and this is one of those times.

So if (and I say if because I know you have a knack for predicting these things) you're wrong, we get to point and laugh at you, right? In a loving manner, of course.

[tencrush]

Oh yes, obviously. I started a whole community about Rose leaving, though, and nobody believed me. Until she did. I had the last laugh on that one.

[kelspots.livejournal.com]

And I have no doubt that it was an evil laugh, a sort of "muhahahah".

Possible Spoilers... Look away, if you must.

[venusinchains.livejournal.com]

Point One would be excellent. Point Two Part Two would be excellent. Points Three and Four are damn depressing to consider (though we know that the hub gets 'blown up' and it's been suggested that the 'weird children' in S3 might be part of the 'everything changes' that Torchwood - or Jack, at least - has been anticipating/holding-on-for - so it's plausible :/ ).

I will wait and see.

[tigercheetah.livejournal.com]

I expect Moffet to create a companion unlike anything Russel created during his run of the show (I hope) though whether he'll include a male companion, I don't know. If the BBC thinks viewing figures would remain high, why not?

I'm almost certain that Jack and Ianto will be over by the end of series 3, though I think it will be on good terms rather than bad. I also think there's a 50/50 chance that Rhys will be gone by the end too, though I don't believe he'll be killed off.

I think JB will be gone from Torchwood by the end of this series or the next, although unlike many people, I think the show could continue without him. Who knows, if Gareth's career takes off like a rocket in the next 5 years, he could come back to lead the show in 10 years. :)

[tigercheetah.livejournal.com]

Ianto for companion?

yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes

but it won't happen.

[nostalgia-lj.livejournal.com]

No moar Crotchwoot?

[ceindreadh.livejournal.com]

(whimper) please be wrong please be wrong. At least about (a) Jack leaving TW or (b) S3 being the last.

The one thing that makes me think it's a possibility is that I heard that JB is doing another concert tour in early summer next year, which if true would mean that filming of a S4 couldn't start until later in the year and would probably end up running into his panto season.

I thought the 'family friendly Saturday evening' show rumour had been put to bed so to speak. Given that BBC are supposedly scheduling S3 in a prime time post-watershed slot, I can't see that they'd suddenly turn around and try and squash a season 4 into a 'family friendly' slot. (or maybe I'm just an optomist)

[santousha.livejournal.com]

The end of Torchwood : Noooooooooooooooooo!
The end of Janto: Yay!
Ianto as a companion: yay!
No more Jack in Whoniverse: Nooooooooooo!
Gareth getting his own spin off full of the ghey: 2xYay!!!!

[santousha.livejournal.com]

say it isn't so

[santousha.livejournal.com]

don't squash my dreams,
repeat after me: it will happen,it will happen, it will happen, it will happen, it will happen, it will happen....

[dune-drd.livejournal.com]

Aren't all of Moffat's DW women a bit like Sally? I actually like that a bit. Ianto as companion would be awesome, oh yes. Yet I can't see them end Torchwood as long as the viewing numbers are okay and they're making enough money from it. I admit it, I watched too many US shows, which made me believe in that rule. As long as it's profitable, they'll find someone to act/write it. We hear all that talk about TW season 3 that 'things will change' - I think that's actually only a Ianto/Jack breakup, if the actors stay on, I don't know. Haven't they all houses in Cardiff by now? Continuing would be at least convenient, and it's a relatively secure day job...

[tencrush]

Profit is not an aspect the BBC take into account, it's against their charter. Their aim is to make quality television with the taxpayers' money, not profit. They don't particularly have a history of dragging a format out past what they believe is its shelf life simply because it's doing well elsewhere.

[tencrush]

I thought that, too, but now I'm not so sure the Beeb might not be angling to keep Gareth on within the franchise somehow.

[off_coloratura]

If it is, you know they will bicker and then end up together. While the Doctor looks on bemusedly.

[dune-drd.livejournal.com]

aw, that's even worse!

[iko.livejournal.com]

*prays*

I've always believed that the TARDIS is far more interesting with three in there. Four and sometimes someone gets locked in a closet for an episode, so that's not as interesting... but three is good!

[dick-grayson.livejournal.com]

Too right. I am constantly amazed when I read posts likening Torchwood to X-Files or similar and suggesting it will have just as long a run. I think sometimes it's hard to look objectively at the show and realize that, while it is a Doctor Who spin-off, it's never going to be that iconic, Saturday tea time franchise that will be around for years and years. Also, yes, X-Files went down the tubes toward the end, but quality-wise, I just don't think Torchwood compares. I'm still waiting for a "Family of Blood/Human Nature" episode out of Torchwood, so I'm not expecting Chris Carter levels of amazing any time soon. Anyway, in answer to your actual post, I tend toward thinking there will be an S4, but that will be it. I also think Ianto's going to end up retconned, his choice.

[tencrush]

That's freaky, I was going to put in voluntary retcon for Ianto as well. I don't know why, it just makes dramatic sense to me, and it feels like a logical step, and a way for us to retroactively find out how Jack really feels about him. I wouldn't be hugely surprised if that's the end of this five parter.

[oneloveonelight.livejournal.com]

Very interesting predictions.

I do think the next companion and Doctor will be unconventional in some way. As in, female Doctor and a male companion. Or perhaps a Doctor with a companion of the same sex. I honestly love the idea of Ianto as a companion.

I also think Barrowman will be leaving after 3 or 4 (please let there be a 4)!! I'm not on forums at all but didn't he say something like that he was leaving eventually? If BBC tries to make this a pre-watershed show, I hope all the cast members up and quit because that would be, pretty much, blasphemy. A family show format is fine for Who because it's always been that way but I especially love Torchwood because it's dark and raw and sexual.

As far as a Janto split up, I'm dreading it with every fiber of my being. BUT if it has to happen, please let them have a very significant romance/relationship story arc. I NEED some kind of full-fledged true love treacley thingie before they go separate ways.

[dvanulya.livejournal.com]

1 and 2 would be fine and dandy.

3 and 4 would break my heart.

[dick-grayson.livejournal.com]

Totally makes dramatic sense, particularly with all this talk about "personal sacrifices" and Ianto's family playing a part in the story. I think Ianto does it, in part, for Jack, who wants him to get away from Torchwood and have a normal life. It will be selfish and brave and terribly sad all at the same time. And it will free Jack up to hook up with Gwen or go haring off with the Doctor. But because the powers that be at the Beeb appear to like Gareth, it probably won't be permanent. Or he'll get work on another show, whichever.

[unfolded73.livejournal.com]

Interesting predictions, all. I've been hoping for a male companion from the first Moffat series, and I'd be all for a threesome (not that way - well, except in fic) as well.

Also agree that Torchwood may be coming to the end of its run, which I don't have any strong feelings about one way or the other. It surprises me that I don't have any strong feelings about it, but there it is.