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[tencrush]

In Russell's world, bumsex with Russell Tovey pretty much fixes all your emo manpain, no matter how vast, yeah?

That's pretty faily right there. Not as faily as that thing with Martha and you know who, but still pretty fucking offensively faily. As was that thing with Donna. Wow, that's a lot of fucking fail to heap upon an awful lot of companions.

DON'T LET THE DOOR HIT YOUR ASS RUSSELL.

Also, did Simm just disappear, never to be mentioned again, or did it just seem that way?

Comments

[aviv-b.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I think we'd all be better off without Moran's blog and the prepublicity stuff. But I agree with Coldwater1010 on this one.

You can say that's not cannon but if its done by those involved in the show itself or are authorized material, its not unrealistic for people to assume it is. I certainly did as opposed to fan fiction where I never assume it is.

I'm not hugely involved in other ffs but long ago, in a glaxy far, far away, when AARP wasn't sending me membership letters to join, the Star Wars books that came out right after the Return of the Jedi were meticulously plotted and cross-checked. Can't say I know (or care) after the prequel crap.

Personally, I don't think RTD or Moran or anyone had/has a coherent view of who any of the characters are. I know you disagree, but The Jack of TW S1 & s2 is NOT the same bastard!Jack of DW. and the Jack of CoE is someone altogether different again. And the Jack in the scene in the recent DW - sort of a blending of them all.

I think you are reading into the series what you want to see, just as the Janto and Gwack shippers have done.

[karaokegal.livejournal.com]

Can we please retire the ugly smushnames? (Whether you mean them positively or derogatorily.) They really suck. J/I or J/G makes the point just as well.

As I said in another post somewhere, Jack Harkness is quite the Roarshach test, but I can't be the only person in the world who thinks he has been consistently real!Jack onscreen from "Gotta meet a girl" to "Are you going my way."

From Grin to Shining Grin as it were; it's all so seamless.

[aviv-b.livejournal.com]

Of course there are those that see things your way. Just like there are those who believe that Janto (and yes I will continue to use that term- every term you don't happen to like is not derogatory) was apparent as well. And the characters are so ambiguously drawn that many different points of view have merit.

You might want to keep in mind that I have been a defender of your point of view on this journal. But you do not have the absolute truth to TW anymore than I do. So you might want to consider that the continual drumbeat of 'Real!Jack is back' is getting just a tad tiring.

Oh, and since I don't agree that your characterization of Jack is the real one, can I make a fuss about saying the Real!Jack term whether meant positively or degrogatively is a problem for me. Its not, but I just want to know if that Ok by you.

[karaokegal.livejournal.com]

Free internet and all that! And I'll keep up the fight against the smushnames purely on aesthetic grounds.

J/I was apparent because we saw a hand job and a total of three on-screen kisses. I've never said they weren't fucking.

Cheers & Happy New Year.

[aviv-b.livejournal.com]

Please do me a favor. Drop the smushname campaign when communicating to me. I heard you. I just don't happen to agree, nor am I obligated to comply with your wishes..

You are selling way beyond the close at this point.

Happy New Year to you.

[karaokegal.livejournal.com]

OK, I'll try to remember.

[coldwater1010.livejournal.com]

I agree. I don't have much time for the blog or the books or whatever else t.v shows/ films etc. put out there because I'd rather they wrote better scripts rather than force their fans to seek out other outlets to get better clarity on what's supposed to be going on on the show/ film, whatever. But if the shows put them out there I assume, beyond being a cynical cash-in, that these things are supposed to be an addendum to the viewing experience and therefore another facet of canon. After all if the show doesn't want the audience to view them as connected to the show then the simple solution is not to produce them then there wouldn't be any confusion.

[aviv-b.livejournal.com]

Oh, but its all about the money. The books, the DVD's, the official magazine, the action figures, that's worth many times more than the shows themselves.

And when they either contradict the show cannon or confuse it, then you can bet that $ is the driver and quality is a distant second.

[love-jackianto.livejournal.com]

'And when they either contradict the show cannon or confuse it, then you can bet that $ is the driver and quality is a distant second.'
Agreed. That reminds me of how in one of the tie in books Ianto said he came out to his parents when he was younger, but it was completely contradicted in CoE.