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tencrush ([personal profile] tencrush) wrote2010-01-01 08:51 pm
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Haha SPOILERS DON'T READ

In Russell's world, bumsex with Russell Tovey pretty much fixes all your emo manpain, no matter how vast, yeah?

That's pretty faily right there. Not as faily as that thing with Martha and you know who, but still pretty fucking offensively faily. As was that thing with Donna. Wow, that's a lot of fucking fail to heap upon an awful lot of companions.

DON'T LET THE DOOR HIT YOUR ASS RUSSELL.

Also, did Simm just disappear, never to be mentioned again, or did it just seem that way?

[identity profile] coldwater1010.livejournal.com 2010-01-02 06:21 pm (UTC)(link)
See, I've never really bought into the idea that just because Jack likes sex and is pretty open to the idea of sex irrespective of species that that automatically translates into him being incapable of anything more than casual shags. I think that's as much a fan fiction as the idea of him settling down with the 2.2 kids and the white picket fence.

[identity profile] karaokegal.livejournal.com 2010-01-02 06:32 pm (UTC)(link)
He may be capable of more (Estelle, Victorian Wife), but it's pure fanfiction that he'd be having that kind of relationship with either of those people, at least based on what actually happened on screen, rather than the Blog and the fanfic writers minds. (And I'm willing to apply that to ANY TW ship. Those were all shag, but there's should have been more of them. Make it clear that he fucked Susie and Owen as well.)

What some people railed against in CoE was actually evidence that the real!Jack believers were right all along.

[identity profile] coldwater1010.livejournal.com 2010-01-02 07:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree that there was no real evidence that either relationship was that deep for him, but conversely there's no real evidence that it was only 'shag' or would only have been a shag (in the case of Gwen) either or that he was interested in shagging every member of his team. That's just personal interpretation because the writing was vague and subtexted or weak enough that if you want to you could chose your own adventure depending on your own biases.

Plus RTD's idea of what is 'romantic' and I use that term loosely and not really in the hearts and flowers way seems to be very different from what I, and apparently a lot of other people, consider 'romantic'. He seems to like the idea of the cool, aloof dominant figure and the needy, dependent figure as romantic model so it's possible in his mind we were supposed to see a 'love' story between Jack and Ianto in COE and it just got lost in translation and/or weak writing.