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tencrush ([personal profile] tencrush) wrote2009-01-13 04:12 pm

And now... a quiz!

TORCHWOODIAN FANNISH VENNISH DIAGRAM, INSTALLMENT THE FIRST:

Gwack and Janto fangirls in venn-diagrammatic form.



QUESTION ONE: Using the following supposition, find a value for A, B, C and D.

Supposition:

Jack/Gwen shippers like to pretend that John Barrowman is just a little bit straight. For them.

[Poll #1330387]

QUESTION TWO:
IS HERE

[identity profile] mellacita.livejournal.com 2009-01-13 03:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Jack/Gwen shippers like to pretend that John Barrowman is just a little bit straight. For them.

I'm not sure it's confined to Jack/Gwen shippers (I've met plenty of Jack/Ianto shippers with a tangible lust for teh Barrowman), but fandom for a gay man will always have a subset who fantasize they can "turn him." Some of them keep these fantasies in their heads, where they are welcome. Others (just attend a con, panto, or concert sometime) put quite a lot of effort (with, ah, varying results) into looking "hot/pretty/sexy" for JB, a man who on national television was scientifically shown as not aroused by naked female pornstars, never mind your very average fangirl.

That being said, plenty of similarly genetically ungifted fans do the same for Gareth. I would say they have no chance, since he's hot and his gf is rather pretty, but then all bets are off if he's had some booze. Never know who he will snog.

[identity profile] mellacita.livejournal.com 2009-01-13 04:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I only say that because I am one myself! Genetically ungifted, that is. I don't make too much of an effort to make myself gorgeous for either Gareth or John, because, really, it would take, in one case, weightloss, hair dye, and de-aging, and in the other, sex reassignment therapy and growth hormones. A lot of effort. :P
Edited 2009-01-13 16:31 (UTC)

[personal profile] jo02 2009-01-14 08:42 am (UTC)(link)
That would be me too.
Not to mention twice his age.
And on the other side of the planet.
Okay, now completely depressed . . .

[identity profile] forgiveninasong.livejournal.com 2009-01-13 03:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I do not think that I can *turn* anyone. Really! I don't *want* to turn Barrowman. At all! And even though I would quite like to have some up close and personal moments with Gareth, I do *realise* that it's 99.99999% not going to happen.

I like Jack/Ianto because it's written on the screen, and you'd be a fool to deny that it's even there. EQUALLY, even though I don't *ship* Jack/Gwen, I do realise why people *do*, because..yup, it's WRITTEN, it's THERE and if you don't see that it's there, then you're obviously watching a different show to everyone else.

Jack and Gwen can't ever happen. Gwen realised this in the time Jack had disappeared, because..Jack could do that *anytime*. He could just bugger off and leave her. That's why I think she threw herself completely to Rhys. He would always be there for her, never leave her. She realised this even more so in 'Meat'. So she didn't "settle" for him, she just...realised what she had, and came to terms with it. She could never have Jack in the way that she wanted, because eventually, he could just leave her. She knows what he's like, and he could leave. But, they do have a relationship, and an understanding.

[identity profile] mellacita.livejournal.com 2009-01-13 04:24 pm (UTC)(link)
But, they do have a relationship, and an understanding.

I've no doubt about that! I am not anti-Gwen. I like her, actually. I don't think she and Jack would work, but it would be hard to deny there is an attraction of some sort.

[identity profile] forgiveninasong.livejournal.com 2009-01-13 04:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, they wouldn't work, but it's written that there's the attraction, and of course, the Unresolved Sexual Tension.

Oh man, I could deconstruct this dynamic in the Team all day!

[identity profile] mellacita.livejournal.com 2009-01-13 04:28 pm (UTC)(link)
True...not all Jack/Gwen shippers want to turn Barrowman, and not all those who want to turn Barrowman are Jack/Gwen shippers. A diagram of its own, really.