While I'm disabled...

[tencrush]

God, I have an incredible urge to take a random sampling of Jack/Ianto fanfic and work out the ratio of Jack versus Ianto as to who takes it up the arse. But where would I take a random sampling from? And, mostly, it would only depress me because I think that if I did it, I'd probably prove that, despite canonical evidence to the contrary, Ianto is invariably the crying, helpless, penetrated wife.

I did that thing once where I worked out how many and what sorts of orgasms Rose had in Ten/Rose fic. I think I left it on my work computer, though. I'm sad about that. They were magical and plentiful and vaginal and reading 50 Ten/Rose fics in a day put me off fic for about a year. Which was a bonus.

Comments

[littlepunkryo.livejournal.com]

I have read so few fics where Ianto tops that I know exactly how many - 3. I'm not picky, but you're right, it's overwhelmingly Jack on top.

[jo02]

Without getting into too much of the details, I think Ianto bottoming nine times out of ten is fairly easily explained.
The slash in this fandom is still predominantly written by women, for women, and whether or not they're even aware of it, most writers will put themselves into their stories. And naturally most of us them relate more to Ianto than to Jack. So it follows that they/Ianto want to attract Jack, win his affections, and then be bedded by him ... which leads to them/Ianto being taken like a girl bottoming.
On the other hand, I agree, that there is just so much of it now that I tend to skim over it because I've read it all before so many times now.
What I do find endlessly interesting and entertaining is that so many of us women writers/readers adamantly prefer to relate to Jack through a male character rather than Russell's adored main female character, supposedly provided to us for just that purpose.

[antelope-writes.livejournal.com]

Put down the mouse and step away from the monitor.

Life's way too damn short to subject yourself to bad!fic.

[mbs-library.livejournal.com]

I agree with antelope there, don't do it. Really, don't do it! Just step away from the computer and pretend the idea never came to you. You might regret it otherwise.

MB

By co-incidence.....

[(Anonymous)]

....just came across this fic this morning.
Not bad - dom Ianto, spanking, hand-job, oral, and no anal for a change.

http://mizzclara.livejournal.com/25650.html

dom Ianto (http://mizzclara.livejournal.com/25650.html)

[fujiko-2708.livejournal.com]

Janto aside, you may have noticed it's always Ianto to be on the receiving end in any other kind of pairings: usually it's Owen/Ianto, John/Ianto, The Doctor/Ianto, etc. There's a fic in which everyone, even Gwen and Tosh rape, and then retcon, him.

I may be wrong but isn't it usually the favourite character the one who ends up assuming the female role? It seems to be judging from other fandoms as well. Maybe it's just a case of penis envy on the writers part, they want to shag Ianto so they do it through the other male character, being Jack or any other male.


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What I do find endlessly interesting and entertaining is that so many of us women writers/readers adamantly prefer to relate to Jack through a male character rather than Russell's adored main female character, supposedly provided to us for just that purpose.
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This is a very good point. And kind of prove what I was saying above. It would be normal to relate to the female character, but I don't think in this case it's Gwen's fault. It's the nature of slash, you see, it must be male on male.

On the other hand, even if I strongly resent the idea of Ianto being the girly boy, just because he isn't! it was probably canon itself that put this image in people's mind by the simple fact that Jack was "harassing" him from the very first episode. That put him in a female position.

[love-jackianto.livejournal.com]

'And, mostly, it would only depress me because I think that if I did it, I'd probably prove that, despite canonical evidence to the contrary, Ianto is invariably the crying, helpless, penetrated wife.'
You are so right about that. I prefer my Ianto's kick-ass. He did deck Jack, head-butt a cannibal, shoot Owen, growl at Captain John (whilst John was hold a gun to Ianto head, no less) and stun gun a bad guy in the head, just to name a few. And yet all most fangirls seem to know about him is that he cried in canon and so they make him a woobie. Who wouldn't cry after they thought they had MURDERED people?