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• THAT SPOILER, DUDES. I told you WEEKS ago that Gareth's a big fat liar and we'd see him in Who soon. Watch this space, it's fucking true, I tells ya.


• Oh, and you know there was an interview with Marsters a while back which was ostensibly about Whedon and the Spike movie and such, but he did let slip he already had Torchwood filming lined up in his diary for next year, right?


• Having said that, I think that rumour a while back about TW only being recommissioned for a five-episode stint might well be true. I think they're going for ANOTHER revamp, and they've SO got US dollars on the brain. Which is funny, yo because the dollar's so sucky right now. But all this would take place after the elections, so per definition the dollar would be less sucky, but still.


• Wow, the writer's strike and the absence of any new drama in the US did this show SO MANY FAVOURS, didn't it? Seriously. If you see US interest as a favourable development, that is.


• What I mean is, I think us Whovians seriously underestimate how many fans of the Buffyverse came into TW season two, for a lack of anything better to watch anyway, watched for the Spike and stayed for the slash. It's the most fortunate set of circumstances that could ever have befallen a British drama series and if you don't think BBC Wales are SCRAMBLING and tripping over their own feet right now to take advantage of that situation, you are VERY WRONG.


• I wish Torchwood was Welsher than it is. And seeing as they seemingly based Ianto's character almost ENTIRELY on internet fanon, I wish they'd run with what seems to be the unanimous internet opinion that Ianto speaks fluent Welsh. Damn them.

Comments

[erinnthered.livejournal.com]

RTD? He loves Americans. His whole idea for Torchwood was to take the British Sci-Fi idea and Americanize it. While he has succeeded in some of the glossier aspects, he hasn't succeeded in the storytelling. I agree with Holdingoff that he is not hiring the correct writers for this show. I actually wish he'd bring in a few Americans. US shows handle ensemble casts like this much better. There's something to be said for the classic A and B storyline style of writing.

I'm finding it hard to believe Chibnall doesn't believe in story bibles, especially since Dick Wolf snatched him up. Wolf is progressive, but still a bit old school. I'm thinking he was towing the RTD party line.

Somebody needs to stand up to RTD, and now. I agree that this is a window for RTD in the US, but I worry that this five episode event television week will hurt him severely. I'm with holdingoff in believing that BBCA is probably desperately trying to negotiate more episodes. I wouldn't be surprised if they are offering money at this point. I'm also betting RTD is having trouble wrapping his head around the idea that anyone could love Torchwood more than Who. I really think he thought Torchwood would always be his little pet side project. Oops.

Also, I just read recently that GDL doesn't know but two words of Welsh. He spoke some in that Stephen Fry show, but I guess he learned it for the scenes.

[rowanswhimsy.livejournal.com]

Really? Aren't Americans the part of the fanbase that he calls mingmongs?

[erinnthered.livejournal.com]

No, the ming mongs referred to the "overenthusiastic" fans. Like the ones who freaked out because the TARDIS in the new series isn't the proper dimensions for an actual Police Call Box. (hence the joke line in Blink)

It had nothing to so with nationality. It was mostly directed at the English fan, if anything.

[rowanswhimsy.livejournal.com]

Meh. I had enough of that sort of insult from Joss Whedon during my Buffy fandom days. RTD sounds like a true disciple.

[erinnthered.livejournal.com]

I can understand your feelings, but RTD said it with a lot of love and hurt. He's a huge fan himself. The Whoniverse is really very different from most other fandoms. The only one I can think of that is similar is Star Trek. With both of them there is a large section of the fan base that literally grew up on the shows.

RTD has an ego problem, absolutely, but it comes from a different place than Whedon's. He's one of us, and feels that those more eccentric fans bring down the whole. Including himself. Joss just has a God complex. Maybe RTD is developing one too, especially with the spin-offs, but that's not where that comment came from.

I don't agree with the tone of it, or the language, but it came from a feeling of personal insult by certain other fans, and not just a desire to put his minions in their place. That I understand.