tencrush: (eleven mad man)
tencrush ([personal profile] tencrush) wrote2011-09-25 08:53 pm

Umm... Who theories?

Nah, actually, they're more sort of random thoughts on the Who finale.



  • Okay, first off, I have no idea what's going on anymore, because that episode allegedly took place on April 19th 2011, the Doctor found himself a Stetson and was about to send the invites to River and... the Amy and Rory he just dropped off, the Amy and Rory who have ALREADY had invites and have ALREADY seen him die and THEN met the Doctor's wife and heard the word petrichor and did whatever it was that apparently made Amy a perfumier-slash-model. Or is this a Pre-S6 Amy and Rory whom we are about to invite to the Doctor's Death, and somehow in between S5 and 6 Amy became a perfumier-slash-model and made a perfume by that name? Kind of like Jack's coat in that flashback episode in Miracle Day, neither of those possibilities make any sort of sense, and with that my faith that Moffat's keeping tight and meticulous track of all the timey-wimey stuff he started is dwindling terribly. Suddenly I'm even less hopeful for the finale.

  • Having said that, I do think there'll be a resolution on the stolen baby storyline and possibly even a reason as to why Amy and Rory seem so terribly unaffected by having their baby stolen in the first place. The whole parenthood thing has been laid on so thick in this series, that it's starting to look pretty unlikely that Amy and Rory's lack of emotion is some sort of oversight on the part of the writers. It must be part of a plan somehow. Right? I mean, dear God, please tell me I'm right.

  • There'll be two Rivers at Lake Silencio, and taking into account that whole thing I typed up there about the invites, I wouldn't be suprised if there were two Amies and two Rories as well. I'm hoping that whatever it is, that Amy and Rory we've seen in the promo shoots are two people who haven't been picked up yet again by the Doctor, but who have actively gone out -themselves- to do whatever it is they're doing with those eyepatches on. That would make a nice change.

  • The Doctor in Closing Time is 1103 years old. I still maintain that the 200 years or so that have passed since the 200-year-younger Doctor met Amy and Rory in that diner, passed in the time between A Good Man Goes to War and when the Doctor picks them up after the crop circle in Let's Kill Hitler. This is because a line like Amy's "You've had all summer" just strikes me as a total Moffat giveaway that The Doctor's been away a lot longer than that.

  • My theory is still that there's a bait and switch going on, that time will have to be rewritten in order for the Doctor not to die, and in order for that to happen baby Melody needs to be returned to her parents, and when that happens I think we will be led to believe that this will rewrite the River we know and love out of existence, at which point it will turn out that the River we know and love is, in fact, the River that was raised by Amy and Rory. Or something. Apart from the whole parenthood theme this season, we've been shown a lot of the badassery and sonic-making and nazi-punching that Amy and Rory are capable of if left to their own devices, and I think the reason we've been shown those things is to bring us to the realisation that the River we know and love could plausibly be the product of Amy and Rory's upbringing. Just two normal people raising someone extraordinary. Anyway, I'd like it to be that, because I kind of thought that was what The God Complex was about, but because I'd like it to be that, it's probably not.

  • I have no further theories, but there's Rory dressed like Action Man. So that makes it good no matter what happens, really. Hell yeah.

[identity profile] nostalgia-lj.livejournal.com 2011-09-25 07:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the Doctor will die forever and there will be no more stories ever again.

[identity profile] qthewetsprocket.livejournal.com 2011-09-25 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)
There'll be two Rivers at Lake Silencio, and taking into account that whole thing I typed up there about the invites, I wouldn't be suprised if there were two Amies and two Rories as well.

I'd really kind of love that.

Sadly, I think it'll just be two Doctors: the original one killing the flesh one, which is the guy we've actually been having adventures with since at least "Let's Kill Hitler".

[identity profile] forgiveninasong.livejournal.com 2011-09-25 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I DON'T KNOW! It's all very confusing, and I spent most of 'Closing Time' going WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN??! Which, actually, is how I have spent all of this series.
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[personal profile] off_coloratura 2011-09-26 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
OKAY... let's take this apart.

At this point, I'm assuming that everything we've seen happening in the new season has still happened.

When Amy and Rory got the invitation for the shooting, they were living in a house with a white door. This Amy and Rory go to America, see the Doctor get shot, go on all the adventures, and get dropped off to become:

The Amy and Rory that the Doctor dropped off in God Complex, who live in a house with a blue Tardis-colored door and whose Amy has developed a modeling career, are living concurrently with the above Amy and Rory (I don't know at all how they'd miss another, very high-profile print ad Amy living at the same time as them.)

The Doctor sees her and Rory on the 19th. Early in the morning of the 20th he and Craig defeat the Cybermen, then he cleans Craig's house, goes back in time to distribute the invitations and meets everyone in America at the right time.

It remains to be seen whether the 200 years happened mid-season Six, or between God Complex and Closing Time, or a combination of the two.

I bet you there WILL be two Amies and two Rories at Lake Silencio. I bet there will be two of EVERYONE. It is the unsubtle running theme of the season. I do not know the promo shoots of which you speak, so I am ignoring that bit.

(Did you notice, BTW, Rory's reaction while Amy was signing the autograph? Kind of a forced-polite "Yes, yes, let's get on with it." Also he is carrying a MILLION BAGS. These two things may be related. Even when he has no lines, Arthur Darvill brings the character.)

[identity profile] kelspots.livejournal.com 2011-09-26 07:23 am (UTC)(link)
The Doctor in Closing Time is 1103 years old.

I actually meant to comment on this after Night Terrors. There was a brief, almost throwaway line that totally supports this theory. The Doctor is talking to the kid about bedtime stories and says that he used to like bedtime stories when he was a kid about, oh, a thousand years ago. Could be a figure of speech, could be a clue - if he's 1100 now, 1000 years ago he would have been just finishing his Time Lordy childhood, right?