EVERYTHING BUT THE BATHROOM SINK.

[tencrush]

I'VE BEEN READING THE MEME! Well, how could I not, given the gossip. Stuff I have seen:

• I've seen a lot of people questioning the validity of the sink rumours. Maybe I've just seen a few too many skanky backstage parties, but I've got no problems believing any of this shizzle. It's not like it's actually earth-shattering or anything, Jesus. Nobody shat on a glass coffee table. Some people had sex. Big whoop.



• LOL, calling [NAME WITHHELD] a SLUT! I love it when that happens. See, from where I'm standing, the chick ALLEGEDLY had consensual sex with an adult guy she found attractive. It's not her JOB to know that he's engaged, nor is it her job to protect the reputation of whichever celebrity she fancies fucking. It's HER VAGINA, she can do whatever the fuck she wants with it. Is her behaviour a bit skeevy? Yeah, probably, it's not the sort of thing I'd do (Fifteen years ago, dudes? Yeah... perhaps. I'm not proud. But not ashamed either, MY business, nobody else's), but seriously, calling someone a slut for HAVING SEX, it's just not fucking on.



• Having said that, the righteous moral smackdown people are laying on GDL? Not cool. You don't know the status of his relationship with his fiancee. She might be fine with confucking. They might have an open relationship. Hell, she might have broken off their engagement two weeks ago because she's seeing someone else who has a more buttony nose. YOU DON'T FUCKING KNOW! It's not GDL's job to keep the fan community abreast of the ins and outs of his relationship, again, that's nobody's business but his. So, to a certain extent, STFU as well. If he is still engaged to the girl and she doesn't approve of that sort of thing (and yes, those things are LIKELY, but not FACT), then yes, it's skanky of him. But you don't know the guy nor do you know any of those things, so whatever dudes.



• LOL, there are people questioning the logistics of sink sex? Come on, guys. I've done a bit of research and apparently nowadays, the preferred height of a sink is around 33 to 34 inches. Given the fact that GDL is, what, 6'1", it would be safe to assume that his inside leg measurement would be around 33 inches, which would more or less correspond with the distance from the ground to the bottom of the base of his erect cock. So what's wrong with the logistics there? I mean, if you, the lady, scoot your arse forward a bit (and you'd have to, or you'd be IN the sink), you'd get a good inch of maneuverability either up or downwards just by tilting your hips, and then you can go with that old chestnut of wrapping your legs around the guy's arse, lean back with your arms on either side of the sink for stability or wrap one of them around his neck, it's all good. I can't imagine there would be any sort of logistic problem. It's just like table or kitchen side sex, except possibly at a slightly more pleasurable height (kitchen units are usually a standard 36 inches, people, 36 inches! Are you listening, Hollywood? AWKWARDLY HIGH.) AND ANYWAY, apparently only kitchens have a sink. Bathrooms have a BASIN. Its called a basin. The internet is a terribly edumacational place.



• GDL has a shirt that says "Don't ask me what it's like to kiss John Barrowman". This makes me LOL. It makes me LOL because when fangirls ask that question it makes me cringe because it's like they're saying "FEED MY FETISH, BITCH!", and when manly interviewers like Jay Leno ask that same question, there's always an undertone of "EEEW TELL US HOW GROSS IT IS TO KISS ANOTHER MAN!!" In fact, I have yet to hear that question asked in a manner that does not make me want to curl up and die. So good on you, GDL. It's a skeevy question. (The only other time people ask the "what's it like to kiss..." question, other than when talking about the ghey, is when the object of the question is someone that has been universally declared, by all of mankind, to be phenomenally, blindingly attractive. I don't know what this says about anything, it's just an observation.)

Yeah, I got nothing else to say. I'll do a picspam tomorrow. And a post about LOVE.

Comments

[noneinnyet.livejournal.com]

Word! It might be different if he was trying to strike a career on the image of being a great and loving guy with a fiancee but it doesn't appear that way too me. His image is to be a bit of a cock. He drinks, he smokes, he swears, and he sticks his dick in willing fangirls. Not the type of person I care to know but I also don't give a crap what he gets up to in his free time.

[gogo-didi.livejournal.com]

I love that the logistics are being considered, people can take all the fun out of random shags. It does sound plausible though... not that I would ever consider it

[mellacita.livejournal.com]

re: logistics of sink sex, Torchwood fans should know. GDL's ex girlfriend did it in Day One, did she not? (my memory is fuzzy on S1 but pretty sure Carys and club dude got off while she was sitting on the sinks. Basins. Whatever.

As for whether or not it took place, to borrow another Day One reference, I don't care. I wouldn't be surpised if he did, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was just some chicks making shit up. Doubt he is going to put a press release out confirming the situation so I doubt we will ever know.

I thought the two panels of Gareth's I attended at Dragon Con were good ones. Some squirmy questions as always, but I thought GDL was pleasant enough and, as someone else pointed out, not having a million "tell us what happens in the next series!!!!" questions made room for some interesting discussion. And, you know, some weirdness. But all in all, probably among my favorite GDL panels.

I can totally get his exasperation with being asked about kissing Barrowman. He even clarified it by saying it's just that anyone with the internet already knows his answer to that question because he's answered it so many times on other panels that are on youtube. I guess some people are interpreting it as saying he was sick of kissing Barrowman? Not the vibe from that answer at all, IMO. I think if they kept paying him money and giving him work based on kissing Barrowman, he'd do it as long as they wanted him to.

ETA: the tense in that last sentence should have been more he would have kept doing it as long as they would have wanted him to. In fact, he did. But anyway, he's always come across as very grateful to have been given the chance to kiss John Barrowman and the resultant increased profile for his character. I also did get the vibe, however, that he is well over being dead and is looking forward to new stuff. Just needs the new stuff to come along, and it sounds like it is perhaps beginning to. And in the meantime, cons and appearances will pay the bills and provide other...opportunities.

[smirnoffmule.livejournal.com]

If somebody is going to make up that they had sex with somebody, and "We did it in the sink!" is their absolute best invention... they probably need to read more fanfic or something.

And a post about LOVE.

This made me LOL to an unreasonable degree. I am so sorry.

[karaokegal.livejournal.com]

I know it's not a kitchen sink in this case, but when I hear sink-sex, I tend to think of the scene in Fatal Attraction.

Hopefully the girl in question isn't going to show up at Gareth's place with a bad perm and bunny boiling tendencies.

[cionaudha.livejournal.com]

I forget which interview it was, but an interviewer asked him what his most hated question was, which we know. Then the wise interviewer said that people should be asking John Barrowman what it's like to kiss Gareth David-Lloyd. GDL liked that idea quite a bit.

Since then someone has aked JB: "really good for a straight boy" was the answer.

[travellingone.livejournal.com]

No, no posts about love and GDL - you'll confuse the fangirls who think they know GDL (and his cock).

[bandgeek01.livejournal.com]

I'll just say word.

and re: s1 torchwood question, yes Carys gets in on in the bathroom of a nightclub while sitting on the sinks. (ironically that was just the episode that was on BBC America this past weekend.)


Nicole

[caledonius72.livejournal.com]

Yes, this is all very well, but what do the ponies think? What's their take on sink-gate?

[caledonius72.livejournal.com]

A lot of this furore seems to be people projecting the traits of a certain Ianto Jones, onto Mr David-Lloyd. Repeat after me: "Ianto Jones is not real and is a fictional construct, Gareth David-Lloyd is a real person, with all the fuckwittage we are prey to."

I drink, I smoke, I swear. Granted, I don't stick my dick into willing fangirls, but if I had willing fanboys, guess where it would go...

Does that make me a bad person? I don't think so, a bit shallow, yes. But then who hasn't done some questionable things? I can be a bit of a cock sometimes, but I also try and do my best. Who can say they've never been a bit of cock?
Glass houses and stones spring to mind.

Kudos to Gareth for his portrayal of Ianto, and well done for being so totally human. He's famous, he's good looking, he may or may not have been under the influence - it would take a saint not to succumb once in a while.

[tencrush]

Word. I've seen a lot self-righteous postings about this shizzle and really, man. It's hard not to feel judged by moral fandom superiors for maybe having done one or two foolish things involving cocks and booze in my time. Jesus Christ, stuff like this happens.

[caledonius72.livejournal.com]

though turns out it was snog NOT shag, or is this someone packpedalling now?

It's a life half lived if it doesn't involve foolishness, booze and a cock or two every so often.

[tencrush]

Yes, apparently it was snog now. Though in my womanly experience, the only reason one has for sitting on a surface such as a sink is to allow the other party comfortable access to fondle your tits and arse.

[caledonius72.livejournal.com]

there's a sliding scale from snog to shag. sounds like it was snogplus.

[ceindreadh.livejournal.com]

Though in my womanly experience, the only reason one has for sitting on a surface such as a sink is to allow the other party comfortable access to fondle your tits and arse.

Two words. Height differential. GDL is what, six foot plus? Maybe he didn't fancy getting a backache ;-)

[fide-et-spe.livejournal.com]

Thing is, previous cons has always said he snogs fan girls, and there has been talk of that being the reason his fiancee attends with him so often, as he has seccumbed to the snogging when she isn't there. Nothing about shagging, and to be honest, this sounds like a crock of shite. Not that I don't believe he would, because people do these things, but it just sounds too much like something a girl would make up to get attention. Also because so often in real life, celebs get accused of doing/saying things that they never did. They get accused of having affairs with people they have literally never met.

Max Clifford is good on that subject, he says how he has had celebs come up to him at parties and say "hey remember 10 years ago when I dated such and such" and he says, "no you never even met them, it was a story we made up for publicity" so even they can come to believe it.

Most of all though, I hope that if indeed he is faithfull to fiancee, then it really sucks if it's made up, which as I said, it really sounds it.

[fide-et-spe.livejournal.com]

I've just been reading the meme, and they had the screen caps of the twitters, one thing that really stands out is that the tweeter is an actress who is looking for work, and makes costumes as well. Also they refer to GDL as some dude from Torchwood.

This tweeting thing is so strange, why are people at a party, doing whatever substances and tweeting about getting hit on by some dude from Torchwood, and their friend doing him in his bathroom? What happened to the good old days of just enjoying the party?

GDL's Cock

[caledonius72.livejournal.com]

Have you actually asked him for a pic of it? Going by recent events he might not say no.

Perhaps tell him you won't pay for the ponies unless you get a 10 by 8 glossy?

[alba17.livejournal.com]

WORD. On all of it.

[satanassa.livejournal.com]

Why are people calling the girl in question a 'slut' or whatever?? It's not as if she cheated on anybody that we know of (provided these things actually happened and she isn't making up stuff).

As for whether G and his fiancee (if the engagement has survived) have an 'open' relationship or not -- well, in almost every society men are egged on to take for themselves the right to have an 'open' relationship, open for the men, that is, not for the women in the partnership. And that's not an open relationship, that's just hypocrisy. I'll console myself with RPF scenarios where the fiancee is shagging randome blokes in Newport pubs.