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tencrush ([personal profile] tencrush) wrote2009-02-06 07:01 am

I'm wrong in the head.

It's wrong of me to just be pausing through this new trailer, cursing the fact that there's not enough Ianto in it for me to properly assess the pie situation?

Actually, that wasn't hugely spoilery, was it? I didn't actually learn any more than I already learned from the set reports. The production values look quite good, but I'm sensing a frisson of shite in there somewhere, mostly coming from John Barrowman's facial expressions. Oh, and Ianto gets to have man on man kissing AND exposition dumping with his sister (I'm assuming that was his sister) who thinks he's a civil servant? Pardon me while I tick off the appropriate "impending death" boxes over here. If out of those "two and three" who got away, Ianto is indeed "three" and not "two", than he's definitely dead by the end of the episode. I would actually find it hugely entertaining if it turned out that Ianto was "two", I really don't know why. In fact, I think the question of which one is two and which is three is going to be my biggest thing when watching this. I get the feeling I may need the distraction. So, yeah. There's children and explosions. Wooo... big news.

Still no clue about when the hell it's on, though. Arsewipes.

[identity profile] nikki4noo.livejournal.com 2009-02-07 12:42 pm (UTC)(link)
One of which is that by making his relationship with Jack so overt he has been placed fairly and squarely in the most dangerous seat in TV Land, ie the Lead's Love Interest. How many of them survive the story arc?

I love double standards like this. Many claim that this is why Gwen is "safe" because she would then become the 'love interest'. Or that she was safe in s1 because it was seen as her being the 'love interest' to Jack. So why is Gwen safe and Ianto not?

More importantly, the very fact that Gareth himself originally said that he was intending to go to LA for pilot season is a great big screaming alarm bell to me that here is an actor who considers himself free and uncommitted and looking for a long term gig.

He doesn't consider himself free and uncommitted, he knows that s3 isn't going to be shown until mid year. Then it depends on if the beeb are happy with the ratings before they green light s4. Everyone involved in the show have said if everything goes to plans then they won't start shooting until the end of the year. So he knows he has a whole year to try and earn money. Why not take the opportunity, when you have been paid for an LA appearance (which often includes flights) to come over a bit earlier and see what you can get, or at least get your name out there. To do it around a time when you are being mentioned in the media as one of three leads for the BBCA top rating show, smart boy.

Oh and the persistent spoiler rumours dates back to one post on the Doctor Who Forum where a poster, with limited history on the site, claimed that either Rhys or Ianto will die because they know someone on the production staff. It then got repeated all over the place.
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[identity profile] maxine-mirkwood.livejournal.com 2009-02-07 01:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I love double standards like this. Many claim that this is why Gwen is "safe" because she would then become the 'love interest'. Or that she was safe in s1 because it was seen as her being the 'love interest' to Jack. So why is Gwen safe and Ianto not?

Because she would not be the overt love interest, she would be their cliche ridden little "love that cannot be". They could have their cake and eat it too, she and Jack can make moon eyes at each other until kingdom come but never have to act on it because she's OMG! married. It's TV's favourite type of romantic interest, one with a stonking great obstacle, the kind that has been dragged out ad nauseum by show after show. Does she love Rhys? Does she love Jack? Does anyone frankly give a shit by the time they get sick of torturing the viewers? In my heart of hearts I want to believe that RTD et al are better than that but I'm not quite sure I can.

Why not take the opportunity, when you have been paid for an LA appearance (which often includes flights) to come over a bit earlier and see what you can get, or at least get your name out there. To do it around a time when you are being mentioned in the media as one of three leads for the BBCA top rating show, smart boy.

I agree that he is a smart boy but you are still missing the point that if he was indeed putting himself up for pilots then he is looking at roles where he would be expected to sign a contract for several years, to commit to US shooting schedules that in no way leave time for going home to shoot several months of Torchwood no matter whether it's August or December or even next year entirely. Pilot season is a big, ugly meat market, worth the trouble if you want to try your luck for what may turn out to be a long term thing but certainly not the time to be looking a bit of something to tide you over before your real job starts again.

Oh and the persistent spoiler rumours dates back to one post on the Doctor Who Forum where a poster, with limited history on the site, claimed that either Rhys or Ianto will die because they know someone on the production staff. It then got repeated all over the place.

*shrug* Bigger spoilers have come out of smaller sources before today. The first hint I got of Owen's departure fell into my lap from the most unbelievably random and unexpected source that I didn't give it a second thought. Didn't make it not true, did it? Nor will the same three or four of you shouting down anyone who expresses a fear about it with all of your spurious assumptions of why it can't be true. It could be. It might be. I sure as hell hope it won't be. But I'm certainly not going to be stomping around declaring it impossible until I've seen it with my own eyes.

(Anonymous) 2009-02-07 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
As someone who does work at a studio I think you should understand the rules change on a daily basis. Pilots are shot during hiatus. . .and /that/ depends on when the particular show and when the producer/writer with the new pilot goes on hiatus. And there is mid season. While not at liberty to say much more I know where stages are on hold or booked through May.

Currently . . . smash shows are renewing for 5 months not years. . . .Times are tight. Long term deals expensive.

If there is a strike all bets are off.

And who the hell wouldn't rather be in Los Angeles than in Cardiff in February.

US shooting schedules --- Do you have call sheets - do you know how long it takes to shoot a season ? I do.
That is dependent on the show. Some shows get canceled before they air... You liked it ? Too bad you don't count.

Yes Gareth is a smart boy with a smart agent who can work a deal if someone wants him badly enough.

Its a business that the bottom line.

[identity profile] tigercheetah.livejournal.com 2009-02-07 03:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Gwen is safe because Eve Myles is the shows leading female. Gareth, Burn, Naoko and Kai are the shows expendable supports.

The only reason why I'm not convinced that Ianto will be killed off in series 3 is because the writers would be repeating themselves at the start of S4 - ie let the team get over the deaths of Owen and Tosh in series 3 and then repeat the situation all over again in series 4 with Ianto.

It all boils down to whether RTD thinks Ianto is too important to the show to lose at the moment, especially so close to lossing Owen and Tosh.