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tencrush ([personal profile] tencrush) wrote2008-06-03 04:00 am
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And seriously, guys...

SHE'S HIS FUCKING WIFE!!

She's not Rose, she's not Jenny, she's not the Rani, she's not Romana. River Song is the Doctor's wife from the future. She's going to die in the next episode. He will spend all that time with her, doing all that funstuff in her diary, knowing precisely how and when she will inevitably die.

Paradoxes, inevitability, fate, curse of a Time Lord... Jesus Christ to hear fandom talking you'd think they'd never seen a Moffat episode before.

EDITED TO ADD SOMETHING I POSTED IN THE COMMENTS: I don't understand what everyone's so worked up about, she's not the next companion, she's his lover/wife from some point in the future. We'll more than likely never see her again. It's about time travel and the weirdness involved. It's about the Doctor losing the woman he loves, BEFORE HE LOVES HER. It's about her dying in the arms of a man WHO DOESN'T LOVE HER YET. It's a timey-wimey Moffat story, nothing more.

Moffat's apparent fascination with the mechanics of time travel make me tremendously excited about his tenure as boss. I think if Moffat does go for any sort of overriding story arc, it will be far more clever than Rusty's namechecking "Torchwood" every bloody episode, and will probably deal with the same themes he seems so fond of, fixed history, inevitability of events, consequences of past and future actions. I'm excited about Moffat, really I am.

[identity profile] jaydk.livejournal.com 2008-06-03 06:59 am (UTC)(link)
But if this character is going to be the Doctor's wife, I'm going to care about her whether I particularly like her or not, because that's an awfully important relationship to the Doctor and I do care about the Doctor -- he's the reason I watch the show, in fact. I especially am going to care about this character if the guy who is taking over running the show is the one who introduces her into the narrative, because that leads me to believe that this is a storyline that could very easily be picked up again.

[identity profile] descrime.livejournal.com 2008-06-03 02:33 pm (UTC)(link)
But it's not going to picked up again. And the Doctor is over 900 years old. He's been married before. I'm sure he'll be married half a dozen more times before he dies, not to mention all the relationships he'll have that don't end in tying the knot. With Captain Jack, he's previously made fun of the 21st century OTP forever concept.

The Doctor's wife closes off no avenues and she won't be important to the narrative. That's the whole point because you'd think she'd be all important as his wife, but because of how they've met, she's just not.

[identity profile] jaydk.livejournal.com 2008-06-03 06:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure how anyone could know definitively that this character and storyline will or won't be picked up again -- especially since the guy who came up with the character is the one who'll be running the show in the next full series.

And while I agree that the Doctor has and will have many significant relationships in his full and varied life, we've never met his spouse before -- so that does certainly stand out as unique thus far, because we haven't in fact seen him married half a dozen times before. If we're left at the end of the episode knowing that someday the Doctor is going to take a step we haven't seen him take in 40-odd years of TV history, I dunno, pretty significant in my book, and hard not to keep in mind while watching other future relationships develop. "Sure, he seems to love him/her/it -- but that's not the one he marries!"