THE DEFINITIVE FANON GUIDE TO JACK AND IANTO, PART THE FIRST

[tencrush]

Now that we've all calmed down a bit, it's time for some science. I have put together a wee poll to find out what is going on in ALL YOUR PRETTY LITTLE HEADS. There have been many things we haven't been told about Jack and Ianto, most of us have filled in the blanks with out own personal fanon, and I'd like to know what, on the whole, that fanon comprises. On with the science...



[Poll #1171935]



If you have any other questions you think need adressing, let me know and we'll do another one before we start analysing numbers, yeah?

Comments

[cayendi.livejournal.com]

Mmm. I see your point, and am now very interested in part two of the poll :)

thing is ... I have this built-in hatred of cliché questions like 'who is the wife'. It makes me want to scream.
Our world really needs to step out of this silly labelist mentality.

Though, honestly, if people asked me who the wife/husband in my marriage is ... I'd probably answer that he's the wife, and I'm the husband ;)

[cayendi.livejournal.com]

actually, my hatred is more for people's need to explain gay relationships in terms that are the heterosexual norm.

[tencrush]

It is a clichéd question, I know, but I'm interested to see what comes out. I may yet resort to analysing a random sampling of fanfic to see who does what to whom and how often and with what hilarious results. But I think if I did that, I'd end up doing several random samplings over time, because I have a niggling feeling the perception of who is the leading partner, sexually, in this relationship, has changed over time. Not just as in who tops, but whose idea it was to have sex in the first place and who initiates their sexual encounters at this point in time.

[just4bri.livejournal.com]

If it's just for fun...cool.

But if you're really interested in how fandom see Ianto and Janto, then two of your questions (not including the "Who's the wife?" one) were biased enough to make in impossible to answer the question (sorry, three years+ of Stats and Ethics lectures in Psychology are still making me sound like one of my teachers ;) ).

The question on "Where are Jack and Ianto?" You don't allow for them to be `on there way to a serious committed, open relationship`. Not all Hetero relationships are monogamous, so it would be sensible to think the gay ones might not be either. The other biased question is the "Jack Harkness is..?" Where you only give options for Jack being a `slut` or `in Wuv` or wanting to be. He could, perhaps be an open minded 51st C guy trying to adapt to a era in which sexuality and gender ideas are extremely backward...from his view point.

I read your answer to the comments before pointing these questions out, to see if it was `just a bit of fun`...which there's nothing wrong with. But you seemed to genuinely want to know what people think, and if your questions are biased, you're not gonna get that.

:: Slipping back into lurkdom :: ... It's a really nice place... otherwise known as a long weekend trip to see John Barrowman in Brighton and Portsmouth ;)

[tencrush]

*dons statisticks hat*
Should I baleete poll Y/N?

Umm... yeah, I've also tainted the accuracy of the responses by some answers being blatantly more amusing than others. I'm not actually interested in stats for these answers, I wanted to get a general impression of people's perception of the characters, so I can move on to part 2 and find out where that perception comes from. Does that make sense?

I tend to get more comments and ergo poll respondents if I refrain from being TOO serious. Or indeed srs.

[meleth.livejournal.com]

I feel that domestically, Ianto's the wife, if we're going with traditional notions of who keeps things going at home while hubby's out rolling around in the dirt, and who's the emotional core of the relationship. As for "wife" as the sexually submissive partner, well, that of course changes on a regular basis.

[brewsternorth.livejournal.com]

That was pretty much my conclusion when I came to writing my first and so far only Jack/Ianto fic. For administrative purposes Ianto's the missis, but in the bedroom who knows?

[kribban.livejournal.com]

One of my co-workers once said when she worked as a clerk in a video store she would sometimes get gay couples walk in and she would immediately see which of them was the "woman" and which of them was the "man."

Another co-worker, who knew perfectly well that I have been in at least one same sex relationship, then replied "Oh, it's the same with the lesbians. You can always see which of them is the man."

(If that's not enough for your amusement, one of my colleagues said to another: "Right, you're brother is gay! Can't he help me pick out an outfit?")

[cayendi.livejournal.com]

mmm, strike the labelist environment. We need to make people aware of the fact there is more to life than black and white *sigh*

I never look at gay couples that way, but then again, my vision is completely screwed up by the fact that I don't feel the need to do that. I just don't care.
Sure, some of my gay friends are more domestic than others, that says absolutely *nothing* about their sex-life, or their work environment. Just like the roles me and my hubby have in life define our domestic- or sex-life.
People are diverse and complicated creatures.

That said, I'm the first to yell 'screaming queen' when seeing a very effeminate gay man on tv. Hey, I never said I was perfect.

Gareth once said that he felt Ianto had an outfit for every occasion. I think that sums Ianto up perfectly. He's versatile and can adapt to every situation. ;)

As for being gay and having fashion sense. I know :)
I have a sixteen year old, straight, son who has a very good sense of fashion (and who's so sick of his mum asking his opinion on her chosen outfit for the day)
Clichés *rolls eyes*