AMERICAN POLITICS FOR THE EURO ZONE

[tencrush]

This:



Scares the SHIT out of me. Her especially. The idea that these two might actually be elected is enough to make me REALLY REALLY QUESTION our decision to move to SF. PLEASE, SOMEONE TELL ME THAT THIS ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN. PLEASE. I get this powerless feeling of dread every four years, much as I expect other Europeans do. All you can do is just sit and watch while your jaw drops onto the floor at the fact that FUCKING FRIGHTENING gun-toting, fundamentalist, freaky deaky WEIRDOES like this even have a VOICE in that big ole country over there, let alone can stand as candidates for the most powerful job in the world.

Listen, I know loads of Americans, and they're all decent, intelligent, hard-working, perfectly normal people. I lived there. People were normal. And nice. And sane. Those two up there? Their very existence? It's what makes us Europeans look at your country and assume you're all trigger-happy, pro-life, religious zealout, war mongering HICKS who haven't got a brain cell between you. And all we can do is sit here once every four years and shout at you and say PLEASE DON'T ELECT THESE PEOPLE. What the fuck else are we supposed to do? See all those caps up there, I'm trying to express frustration here, because I really, honestly don't know what else to do. The idea that these two even stand a TINY CHANCE of becoming the two most powerful people in the world, not only does it scare me to death, but it's just a fact that I cannot, intellectually, get my head around. It doesn't compute.

Please tell me this isn't happening. Help a non-citizen out here.

Comments

[wiley-nilly.livejournal.com]

Honey, no one is more scared than I am. Sadly, a lot of people aren't going to vote for Barak, for obvious reasons, and they'll see McCain as the lesser of two evils. I mean, really.

So, I'm saving my money, honestly, to ex-patriate somewhere because this isn't the country I was raised in. If they put this woman on the ticket to represent women, I have to say, she doesn't represent me.


Please keep in mind as you're looking in: because of an antiquated system of 'vote counting' aka the Electoral College, Bush was elected by that body - not the popular vote which elected Gore. The contested state was the one his BROTHER was governor of. And that election was upheld by a supreme court whose majority was appointed by Ronald Reagan and his FATHER. Just sayin'.

I wanted Dennis Kucinich! He spoke the truth. Needless to say, he's no longer in the race.

[oneloveonelight.livejournal.com]

I'm with you. I posted a LJ entry about Palin last night as I was watching her. I am not kidding you, I literally MOONED the television during her speech.

Her speech was full of lies and took cheap shots at democrats (and not even intelligent ones). Like this one:

Harry Reid, the Majority Leader of the current do-nothing Senate, not long ago summed up his feelings about our nominee.

He said, quote, “I can’t stand John McCain.” Ladies and gentlemen, perhaps no accolade we hear this week is better proof that we’ve chosen the right man. Clearly what the Majority Leader was driving at is that he can’t stand up to John McCain.

What kind of intelligence is behind that? That's like a baseless insult from a 10 year old.

I am convinced that Republicans don't think. They like shouting, insults, and displays of bravado. They are a huge reason as to why this country is so divided. Talk like that will only divide people even further, not bring them together.

I am constantly dumbfounded at how a large group of people can be so stupid. I want America to return to AMERICA and not be this dumbass country that has lost its mind. It really scares me too.

[tencrush]

She's a frightening woman with frightening views.

It's just so surreal to watch it unfold. I just want to take people and say GET OUT and LOOK AT YOURSELVES FROM OVER HERE. You look like a bunch of retards. Because I KNOW YOU'RE NOT. It's the most frustrating feeling in the world. That, and those two up there, they're going to fuck America and Americans into the ground until there is nothing left of the economy and the freedoms they keep self-righteously shouting at other countries about. And that is SO OBVIOUS from over here on the outside. If I'm feeling this dread, I cannot begin to image how normal, sane American voters feel. This election is scaring me.

[tencrush]

for obvious reasons
See, as an outsider, I have to assume that the obvious reasons are that he's that most frightening of things, an intellectual black man. And I don't quite know which of those two adjectives scare those people more, I have to be honest.

[(Anonymous)]

Bingo. "Bubba" ain't gonna like him. Sadly, in some cultures within the US, the second ammendment - the right to bear arms - trumps the first one - free speech. Sadly, Martin Luther King's dream is still that - a dream.

[sage-theory.livejournal.com]

If it makes you feel better, I'm voting for Obama. I can give you the names of loads of others who are as well. I'm encouraging everyone I can to cast a vote for Obama.

I believe that there is every chance that Obama will win, and that these two will slink away into the annals of history as a bullet we all dodged.

So, when you feel scared, think about that. Or you know, Ianto's cock. WHICHEVER MAKES YOU HAPPIEST.

[torenheksje.livejournal.com]

I moved from the US to the Netherlands when Bush first started putting his scary Let's Destroy the Constitution "Homeland Security" policies into effect. Even though we are now making plans to move back to the US, I won't do it if McCain somehow buys his way into the Presidency the way Bush did is elected. My taxes will not be spent supporting a "war" I don't believe in, and my uterus will still belong to me, thank you very much.

I miss my country, but goddamn, what a mockery of Liberty and Justice for All the Republican party makes of such a once-proud nation.

[tencrush]

Sarah Palin would prefer I don't think about Ianto's cock. In fact I think she might make it her mission as VP to ban the word "cock" from the internet and all public libraries. That and "safe sex". "Homosexuality", perhaps. Oh, "choice" as well, I don't think she likes that one, either.

Is there a good chance he'll win, though? That's really my question. It's impossible to tell from here. You all just look mental and obsessed with total non-issues.

[tencrush]

I miss my country, but goddamn, what a mockery of Liberty and Justice for All the Republican party makes of such a once-proud nation.
Word. I know America and I know it's better than this. I'm finding it so hard to fathom that this might actually happen, it makes me so sad.

[bandgeek01.livejournal.com]

I'm just as scared. I couldn't even muster up the courage to watch her speech. I heard highlights this morning and was horrified.

McCain bitched about Barack not having experiece. And McCain picked what? A person who doesn't know facts and can't public speak to save her life, and how about the fact she doesn't know what the VP is supposed to do on a daily basis.

Trust me I'm doing all I can to help not get this elected.

Nicole

[mellacita.livejournal.com]

I have always lived in urban areas (well, I lived in a suburb as a child but it was pretty close to Chicago). Last week I was in a town of 339 in Wisconsin, and was reminded as I always am that this country is so utterly polarized it's not even funny.

I try to explain it to my European friends, but it is difficult, because I cannot quite understand it myself. I am related to people who think McCain and Palin are awesome, and I can't quite explain it. Their positions seem to be based entirely on Jesus Christ and how he would not want gays getting married or people getting health care or would let countries evolve their own political landscape without our intereference/paternalism. Apparently Jesus, despite being from the Middle East, was also a blond Anglo-Saxon who finds the idea of a black guy kind of scary.

If you had to be anywhere in this country, though, SF would probably be one of the safest...safe from people like that, I mean. Not sure I would move here, though, if they are elected. I'll be looking for a way out, myself.

[mellacita.livejournal.com]

He and Obama are extremely close in the polls. This is, after all, the country that elected George W. Bush. Twice. Yes, there is a good chance he will win. Unfathomable, but, there you have it.

[oneloveonelight.livejournal.com]

Oh, I can see it plain as day. That's why it's so scary. It's like being Neo and seeing the matrix for what it really is.

Talking to modern-day republicans (neo-conservatives) is exactly like talking some sense into insane people. It's a new breed of republican; common sense and compassion just seems to bounce off of them. And they're proud of it.

So there's really no hope in reasoning with them. I've tried for years with my parents, who are republicans through and through. The only hope I can see is educating the younger people and hoping that the next generation will be smarter and make the right decisions in the future.

[sage-theory.livejournal.com]

In fact I think she might make it her mission as VP to ban the word "cock" from the internet and all public libraries.

I feel this alone makes her the devil incarnate. Ianto's cock should be a public treasure. A national icon!

Why ban such a thing? Share it with the world, I say! Cock for all!


Is there a good chance he'll win, though? That's really my question. It's impossible to tell from here. You all just look mental and obsessed with total non-issues.

I believe there's a good chance. The polls have it split down the middle, basically, and anything can happen between here and election day.

I think Sarah Palin will end up hurting McCain's cause. I think if Obama puts on his A-game, he can surge ahead and win.

[cionaudha.livejournal.com]

I'll answer that. "Intellectual" is the scarier of the two.

Black folks are fine as long as they're humble or Tiger Woods. Intellectuals of any color are terrifying.

"Elitist" is the word used to describe candidates with education. Dubya can get away with being a Yalie because he's dumb as a box of rocks, see, but Obama is elitist.

The way I see it, my President --whoever it is, whichever party-- had damn well better be better than I am. I'm not voting for some mediocrity who's just like me.

And just don't even get me started on Palin. Who comes to the potential of being our Commander in Chief with oh, that little matter of being ACTIVELY ANTI-AMERICAN on her resume. I don't know what else you'd call a secessionist.

I regularly have a desire to be Canadian or British, but I don't insist on taking my whole state with me.

/rage

[oneloveonelight.livejournal.com]

I just wanted to comment on this too. I think Obama has a great chance of winning. But the polls are VERY close. And in 2004, I thought there was no way in hell Bush was going to get elected to a second term. I thought Democrats had it in the bag... EASY.

Nope.

And yes, in 2000, Al Gore actually won the presidential election by OVER HALF A MILLION popular votes. But the electoral votes are what counts, not the ACTUAL vote count. He also appeared to win by electoral votes at first but then the Republican did a recount (led by Republicans). And most of us in this country believe they fixed it and made Bush the winner even though they deny that. Of course.

[mslauren2930.livejournal.com]

All you can do is just sit and watch while your jaw drops onto the floor at the fact that FUCKING FRIGHTENING gun-toting, fundamentalist, freaky deaky WEIRDOES like this even have a VOICE in that big ole country over there, let alone can stand as candidates for the most powerful job in the world. - and the big problem is that they're vocal, they're organized, they vote in droves and are indoctrinating their children into their madness. what's even sadder is that a lot of people who desperately want change have a sense of hopeless "there's nothing I can do to change things so I'm not going to do anything" which is why people like that keep getting elected in this country.

but, I have hope and have had it for months and months now that Barack is just the person to stop people like this from running this country. I believe it down to my core. it was reinforced last week by Hillary Clinton in the most awesome political move ever, when she stopped the roll call and put Obama's name quickly to a vote. after going through one of the most bitterly fought primaries ever, that was a move of such awesomeness that it restored my faith in the Democrats in such ways... and I'll always think of that when driving through Harrisburg, PA since that's where I was when I was listening to CNN on my XM radio. :D

don't worry... although I'd worry for your country if these two are elected, because a lot of us may suddenly flee for parts elsewhere in the world. I'm so envious at my sister's moving to Australia. if it's McCain/Palin in November, she'll have already made her clean getaway. :(

[love-jackianto.livejournal.com]

'All you can do is just sit and watch while your jaw drops onto the floor at the fact that FUCKING FRIGHTENING gun-toting, fundamentalist, freaky deaky WEIRDOES like this even have a VOICE in that big ole country over there, let alone can stand as candidates for the most powerful job in the world.'
That's exactly the reason why I may just move to Canada if McCain gets elected.

'PLEASE DON'T ELECT THESE PEOPLE.'
We didn't elect Bush the last time, but apparently that doesn't matter.

[love-jackianto.livejournal.com]

'And most of us in this country believe they fixed it and made Bush the winner even though they deny that. Of course.'
I for one, have always believed that.

[kel-reiley.livejournal.com]

if, and i do honestly think that's a BIG IF, if those 2 get elected, i'm moving to canada
cuz, the us probably won't attack canada next, right?
right?
def leaving the country, though

[love-jackianto.livejournal.com]

'I am constantly dumbfounded at how a large group of people can be so stupid.'
It's BECAUSE they're a large group that they're stupid. People in large groups tend to stop thinking and just do what their leader tells them (look at mod mentality and cults) because it's 'easier' than making your own decisions.

'I want America to return to AMERICA and not be this dumbass country that has lost its mind.'
Yeah, if McCain gets elected I don't think that will happen any time soon.

[love-jackianto.livejournal.com]

'cuz, the us probably won't attack canada next, right?
right?'
Unless they find I large oil deposit in Canada.

[temporal-tech.livejournal.com]

It's like being Neo and seeing the matrix for what it really is.

This is exactly it. We see it, but the quantity of dumb Americans to the quantity of educated Americans is like the quantity of birds to grass. We see it, we know its wrong. But even if every single one of us shows up at the polls and votes for Obama, we still might not outweigh the dumb Americans.

[kel-reiley.livejournal.com]

balls
there's always something

[love-jackianto.livejournal.com]

Yeah. If I could afford it I would move to Canada so fast (with my luck that'd be the day America invades).