ext_47272 ([identity profile] nikki4noo.livejournal.com) wrote in [personal profile] tencrush 2008-05-14 01:22 pm (UTC)

Right my two cents, for what it is worth ;) What we have found out in canon about Jack?

1. The doctor in explaining to Rose that Jack is a little more flexible towards sex than those in the 21st Century "So many species, so little time." I saw that comment more as the Doctor warning Rose away from Jack, he had seen she was quite interested in Jack.
2. Omnisexual does not equate to slut, not once has there been any canon evidence for this in the show, just that he is open to being attracted to different species/people. Those that think it equals slut often think that homosexual=slut as well.
3. He flirts yes, but not once has he ever followed through with someone unwillingly. The flirtation is actually often used to distract someone, get control of a situation/conversation back the way he wants. Capt John did a similar thing when he was there so I see it as a Time Agent trick/training.
4. His flirtation this season has been fairly minimum, ep2 Tosh comments on his flirting and he is pretty adamant that wasn't what he was doing.
5. Longer term relationships - His family back home, fairly traditional family unit it seems - Father, Mother, sibling. He was in a relationship with John for 5 years. He at one stage was married, after knowing that he can't die, he still committed to a woman. Estelle, for a period he was very committed to her but didn't want to hurt her in the long run so broke it off, but still kept an eye on her. So canon back story on Jack shows that he can and has committed in the past.
6. Jack really is looking to be wanted/needed. He hides behind this brash persona but the reality is that he knows he will always be abandoned and how he was treated by the Doctor both times, makes me grr. That is partly why his reaction in Cyberwoman was so over the top. He trusted this guy, let him in on a lot of secrets and that trust was broken. Owen, Tosh and Gwen have all at some stage broken his trust too and he hasn't reacted anywhere near with the anger that he showed towards Ianto. We know that once Ianto gives his loyalty he will follow through often past the point of common sense. Jack is very similar, the Doctor has treated him very badly and yet Jack is still very loyal to him. I would have yelled at the Doctor if I had been treated the way Jack was, but no Jack waits for him and in fact tries to change Torchwood to honour the Doctor. So Ianto and Jack are actually fairly similar.
7. All the interactions between the two show Ianto as more dominant one. He is also the only one that can tell Jack off and Jack will listen and adjust his behaviour. i.e in Meat - Gwen is telling Jack off, does he listen, nope not at all, keeps goading Rhys, but as soon as he asks Ianto if he was showing off and Ianto tells him that he is, he stops it. Jack's response shows that Ianto isn't his fuck buddy, that Ianto is someone whose good opinion he cares for and respects.

Anyone that thinks that Ianto is being pushed around by Jack hasn't watched the show properly and paid attention. They obviously need to be bashed over the head with a blunt object and big words across the screen that "Look here are two guys that care about each other". If you can't pick up on the little things and hints that the writers and the actors are giving us, then go watch an american sitcom, that's probably more your thing, they explain things S L O W L Y and more than once for you to get it. I love this show because I have to pay attention, because I have to watch it more than once. They don't treat the audience like idiots, but as intelligent people who pay attention and want to think.

GDL's recent comments about when it started, he is totally contradicting himself from a much earlier interview which was given just shortly after the completion of filming of s2. In that interview (on his official website) he talks about Fragments and that Ianto didn't quite understand his feelings towards Jack before Cyberwoman, that he was conflicted and that there wasn't anything going on before then. Gareth's recent comments need to be considered within context that he had just been talking about how much he loved the filthiness of fanfiction and was pretty well daring all the fangirls in the room to go write some more involving Ianto felching Jack.

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