Yeah, they're pretty far apart for me too. Show!Jack comes off demanding, charming, manipulative, sweet, torn, forgiving, understanding, but I am not sure this needyness has ever been shown, really. I might have to go back and look for it, but I don't recall it.

As a relative newbie, can I just say how much I am loving the amount of intelligent meta and analysis there is here? I was totally the geek of my old fandom and here I feel right at home. LOL.