I may prefer Jack/Ianto and like to construe some romantic elements to it, but I'm not anti-Jack/Gwen (for you I shall abstain from "Gwack" even if I do find it apt as it makes me yack) because of it. I'm anti-Jack/Gwen because of many things:
1. I loath "The Gwen Show" Torchwood can be at times (ie, it's all about Gwen, everybody wants Gwen; Rhys, Owen, apparently Jack, Eugene... she even thinks Ianto is cutting in to dance with her). 2. I don't like people who commit themselves to monogamous relationships breaking said commitment (Gwen cheating on Rhys physically with Owen was appalling enough; Gwen apparently cheating on Rhys emotionally with Jack is downright malicious). This does not apply to Jack as he does not make any claims to monogamy. 3. It belittles what they have with their other partners (Jack/Gwen fans, for the most part, either are planning ways to kill off Rhys or say Gwen is "only settling" when we've seen, in canon, that's not necessarily the case and she’s actively choosing Rhys over Jack). 4. It makes Gwen a hypocrite. When anyone in the team does something morally grey, she's all over it and preachy. When she does it, we're suppose to accept that she's “just human". Also, it belittles all the lines on how honest she's going to be with Rhys from now on because we know that's not the case. 5. The notion others have articulated much better on this thread that Jack can only commit to females and men are “just for fun”. Or, that it furthers the stereotype that bisexuals are unable to commit to anyone at all (even to which sex they “prefer”… blah, how I loath that one). And if they ever were, it’d be with the “right” sex (ie, the opposite one). If a bisexual goes with a person of the same sex, then they’re “unable to fully come out as gay” and only claiming bisexuality to “straddle the fence” so they can be partially be accepted by the “norm” (sorry, this is a personal issue of mine and it really grrrs me… ending tirade!).
In short, I don't mind disruption to Jack/Ianto so long as it's not with Gwen or not with Gwen more. Equal would be tolerable. But, if Jack must have feelings for a woman, I’d rather Tosh (though that would disrupt the Tosh/Owen thing they’re beautifully creating). It's the "Gwen" part of the scenario that makes me cringe. And it’s the Gwen more part that always squicks me.
And JB... he's not the best actor (obviously, this is my opinion, and I’m sure many would disagree). I love him and when he gets it right, he gets it right! but he overdoes it so often I wonder if he still thinks he's on stage. But, even though I see the pain there as well, I can’t just jump on it being a romantic thing when there are other viable alternatives that are just as consistent in the canon (this show is rather hard for canon, as I agree with many others that the writers don’t ever seem to get together and go over what the others wrote last time… it jumps around so terribly -_-). Not to say it’s not a romantic loss he’s feeling, but I just can’t see it as being the only interpretation and it’s not the interpretation I chose to go with (go figure, lol). I may be deluding myself to see only what I want, but it does help when BBCA also seems to be deluding themselves with the Captain’s Blog bits along with me.
Insisting that the pain in JB’s eyes with Gwen can only equal romantic longing is just as much of a jump as me saying you can only interpret the office scene one way. As it stands, ALL of this is ambiguous in canon and fans on both sides see it as they choose.
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1. I loath "The Gwen Show" Torchwood can be at times (ie, it's all about Gwen, everybody wants Gwen; Rhys, Owen, apparently Jack, Eugene... she even thinks Ianto is cutting in to dance with her).
2. I don't like people who commit themselves to monogamous relationships breaking said commitment (Gwen cheating on Rhys physically with Owen was appalling enough; Gwen apparently cheating on Rhys emotionally with Jack is downright malicious). This does not apply to Jack as he does not make any claims to monogamy.
3. It belittles what they have with their other partners (Jack/Gwen fans, for the most part, either are planning ways to kill off Rhys or say Gwen is "only settling" when we've seen, in canon, that's not necessarily the case and she’s actively choosing Rhys over Jack).
4. It makes Gwen a hypocrite. When anyone in the team does something morally grey, she's all over it and preachy. When she does it, we're suppose to accept that she's “just human". Also, it belittles all the lines on how honest she's going to be with Rhys from now on because we know that's not the case.
5. The notion others have articulated much better on this thread that Jack can only commit to females and men are “just for fun”. Or, that it furthers the stereotype that bisexuals are unable to commit to anyone at all (even to which sex they “prefer”… blah, how I loath that one). And if they ever were, it’d be with the “right” sex (ie, the opposite one). If a bisexual goes with a person of the same sex, then they’re “unable to fully come out as gay” and only claiming bisexuality to “straddle the fence” so they can be partially be accepted by the “norm” (sorry, this is a personal issue of mine and it really grrrs me… ending tirade!).
In short, I don't mind disruption to Jack/Ianto so long as it's not with Gwen or not with Gwen more. Equal would be tolerable. But, if Jack must have feelings for a woman, I’d rather Tosh (though that would disrupt the Tosh/Owen thing they’re beautifully creating). It's the "Gwen" part of the scenario that makes me cringe. And it’s the Gwen more part that always squicks me.
And JB... he's not the best actor (obviously, this is my opinion, and I’m sure many would disagree). I love him and when he gets it right, he gets it right! but he overdoes it so often I wonder if he still thinks he's on stage. But, even though I see the pain there as well, I can’t just jump on it being a romantic thing when there are other viable alternatives that are just as consistent in the canon (this show is rather hard for canon, as I agree with many others that the writers don’t ever seem to get together and go over what the others wrote last time… it jumps around so terribly -_-). Not to say it’s not a romantic loss he’s feeling, but I just can’t see it as being the only interpretation and it’s not the interpretation I chose to go with (go figure, lol). I may be deluding myself to see only what I want, but it does help when BBCA also seems to be deluding themselves with the Captain’s Blog bits along with me.
Insisting that the pain in JB’s eyes with Gwen can only equal romantic longing is just as much of a jump as me saying you can only interpret the office scene one way. As it stands, ALL of this is ambiguous in canon and fans on both sides see it as they choose.