I am almost afraid to post this here, for fear of having stuff thrown at me, but I had to say something....I just don't agree with what you are saying at all, and I know that in this thread of posts it puts me in the vast minority.
Ok, we know that Jack was married to a woman and had a serious thing with Estelle. That means he can only "settle" down with women? Just because we are getting a glimpse of that does not make it a universal truth. Yeah, he mentions men he has had sex with a lot, but you know, the shock factor is so much better there than stating the same about his female partners. As for the Gwen/Jack scenario, I do think Jack loves her, but not in the same way he loves Ianto. He loves every member of that team in one way or another, but is obviously connected most to Gwen and Ianto. Maybe there is a longing for Gwen the actual character, but it feels to me more like a longing for what she has, for the grand idea of it all. I didn't care for their moment when they were dancing to be honest, but I can see the point of it. There is mutual attraction there, sure, and maybe a hint of what could have been or what could be....But in the end, she is with Rhys, where Jack knows she belongs.
Also, have to say that I think Jack was very much in love with The Doctor, an alien sure, but in the form of a male.
Anyway, the Ianto bit....Where has his character at all said he is not liking the relationship as is? And who is to say that Jack is not taking it seriously. Because they "dabble" " (Ianto's choice of words, not Jack's. He could have said anything to Martha, he chose to be coy.) It isn't as if we see Jack cavorting with anyone, or as a matter of fact, we see him with no one. The same basic principle applies to he and Ianto as with he and Gwen, in the end it can never be the happily ever after, white picket fence and all. Jack will live, everyone else will die. It will hurt. And that has to factor in to it.
As for Jack pining away over said dead wife, well after a wedding would be the time to do that wouldn't it? You don't just stop loving someone because they died, do you? I would imagine even a hundred years later it would still sting, and the memories of those you loved, man, woman, alien, whatever....Would still haunt you and pain you.
The dress thing I thought was super funny, went along well with Ianto calling himself the wedding fairy. I thought it was funny and I don't see how it made a statemtent about him and Jack and their relationship so much as it being a good joke. Same goes for the comment about "doing" Ianto. Jack and Gwen got a chuckle out of it, and I don't think it was meant as derogatory or anything like that. I thought it was actually kind of cute.
So yeah, throwing in my two cents or whatever. Hope someone out there agrees with me!
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Ok, we know that Jack was married to a woman and had a serious thing with Estelle. That means he can only "settle" down with women? Just because we are getting a glimpse of that does not make it a universal truth. Yeah, he mentions men he has had sex with a lot, but you know, the shock factor is so much better there than stating the same about his female partners. As for the Gwen/Jack scenario, I do think Jack loves her, but not in the same way he loves Ianto. He loves every member of that team in one way or another, but is obviously connected most to Gwen and Ianto. Maybe there is a longing for Gwen the actual character, but it feels to me more like a longing for what she has, for the grand idea of it all. I didn't care for their moment when they were dancing to be honest, but I can see the point of it. There is mutual attraction there, sure, and maybe a hint of what could have been or what could be....But in the end, she is with Rhys, where Jack knows she belongs.
Also, have to say that I think Jack was very much in love with The Doctor, an alien sure, but in the form of a male.
Anyway, the Ianto bit....Where has his character at all said he is not liking the relationship as is? And who is to say that Jack is not taking it seriously. Because they "dabble" " (Ianto's choice of words, not Jack's. He could have said anything to Martha, he chose to be coy.) It isn't as if we see Jack cavorting with anyone, or as a matter of fact, we see him with no one. The same basic principle applies to he and Ianto as with he and Gwen, in the end it can never be the happily ever after, white picket fence and all. Jack will live, everyone else will die. It will hurt. And that has to factor in to it.
As for Jack pining away over said dead wife, well after a wedding would be the time to do that wouldn't it? You don't just stop loving someone because they died, do you? I would imagine even a hundred years later it would still sting, and the memories of those you loved, man, woman, alien, whatever....Would still haunt you and pain you.
The dress thing I thought was super funny, went along well with Ianto calling himself the wedding fairy. I thought it was funny and I don't see how it made a statemtent about him and Jack and their relationship so much as it being a good joke. Same goes for the comment about "doing" Ianto. Jack and Gwen got a chuckle out of it, and I don't think it was meant as derogatory or anything like that. I thought it was actually kind of cute.
So yeah, throwing in my two cents or whatever. Hope someone out there agrees with me!