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[tencrush]

Russell's tasteful acceptance speech at SFX.

ETA the speech for those of you who don't like clicking links:

"Hello SFX, it's Russell T Davies here, I'll just dictate this on to your answerphone. Thanks very much to everyone who voted, and I'd also like to thank... Oh, hold on. Sorry. No, I'm busy, I'm on the phone to SFX. It's a magazine. No wonder you haven't heard of it, it's a specialist magazine. For special people. Yes, with special needs. They've given Torchwood a prize for Best TV Episode. No, stop laughing, they have. No, they really have. Honestly, stop laughing. I'm not kidding, seriously, stop laughing, now. No, it's not the Comedy Awards. Which episode? Day 5. No, not Day 4. No, definitely not Day 4. I didn't write Day 4. I don't f**king care what you think, Day 4 didn't win, okay? And no, he's not coming back to life, so forget it! You're no longer playing Ianto, you're my houseboy, so accept it, okay? Anyway. Yeah, thanks SFX, and thanks to the magnificent cast and crew, and to BBC One for their support. I'm really delighted and honoured that people made the effort to vote for this, so thank you hugely. Hold on. You missed a bit, Gareth, over there, that's it, bend over. Bye. Click. Brrrr."

Hey, I don't really care what anyone else thinks, I think Rusty's a huge skeeve. Seriously, yeah, of course I lolled (briefly), but no, man, if Gareth was a chick and Rusty was Moffat you'd be all over this fucking shit. It's skanky sexual innuendo by a big-time producer about a young actor. It's not witty, and it's not clever. I don't think GDL's crying quietly in a corner about it, he's a big boy, but still. Point still stands.

My main beef with this is: why does he keep feeling the need to poke this fannish shit? Let it lie already, Russell.

Comments

[siege-ofcahoots.livejournal.com]

I think he did it for teh lulz but, as I have always have said, good ole Rusty has a serious disconnect between what he thinks and how things are received.

This is going to what gets his ass kicked I hope, because people are noticing it. That 'special needs' thing was especially charming. I couldn't believe what I was reading the first time I say it. It was interesting that Moran prefaced reading it by saying that they weren't his (Moran's) words, he was just relaying them.

Goes back to what I have thought all along - RTD doesn't have anyone telling him 'no.' He had to have run that by a few people who snickered along with him.

And this is the man who expects to make it big in the US market?

[tencrush]

The special needs thing was pretty special, and the sexual harrassment angle, which he's suffered from before with GDL, is just offensive. And why does he keep feeling the need to bring this stuff up and fan the flames of something he himself claims is 9 people who are upset? If it's no big deal, why doesn't he shut up about it, he's making himself look like a fucking petty and belligerent attention whore. Is there nobody who'll tell this man to shut the fuck up already?

[caledonius72.livejournal.com]

And fandom goes into meltdown (again)

I wonder what the reaction in the room was, when it was read out? There would have been a few fans there, as GDL was making an appearance.

I'm sure it was for the lulz, but he does like to poke the hornets nest. Do you think he has a bet on with someone to see how much aggro he can cause? Or does he just sit there hunched over the interwebs, rubbing his hands together with glee, as fandom assplodes.

Yep - he's skeevy in that "predatory older homosexual" way that we used to get warned about. Way to go Rusty, live up to that outmoded cliche.

I suspect that GDL is slowly washing his hands of TW/CoE - http://www.garethdavid-lloyd.co.uk/qa.html - check out his answer to Q2 of the January 2010 Q&A.

If I were GDL, I'd be insulted for about a minute, and then think "tosser" and then get on with my life.

[siege-ofcahoots.livejournal.com]

I could be charitable and posit that he's honestly perplexed, but with most if not all of the initial(and quite long lived thanks to RTD himself)furor having died down, I'm going to call bear baiting attention whore.

[stuffphile.livejournal.com]

He disgusts me. Doesn't it seem like he's simply jealous of the attention GDL and Ianto got when everyone should've been fawning over his genius and intends this "hilarious" demeaning crap as a jab, through Gareth, at everyone who cried "Ianto"?

[siege-ofcahoots.livejournal.com]

Yep - he's skeevy in that "predatory older homosexual" way that we used to get warned about. Way to go Rusty, live up to that outmoded cliche.</Q OMG, that is exactly correct - it's so 'bitter old queen' of him. Dies laughing. That so needs an icon.

[siege-ofcahoots.livejournal.com]

HTML fail - paging Siege...

[caledonius72.livejournal.com]

I love to correct html - You're missing an ">".

GDL is young, talented and hot - ergo sum attracting the “acid wit” of the Bitter Old Queen.

He was brilliant in The Bill episode - creepy, vulnerable and crazy.

[siege-ofcahoots.livejournal.com]

I heard he was good - I have it, just haven't had a chance to watch it yet. Gareth will do well - he's got talent and a sense of humor about it all.

[rexluscus.livejournal.com]

Wow...stay classy, RTD.

[lawsontl.livejournal.com]

He's a condescending old bat. Compare the speech about Tennant. I mean, Gareth can take it and probably laughed. And the hardcore SIJ crowd probably wasn't even in the room (unless Gareth was), but exactly what others have said: he's picking the scab and asking us to compliment his job making the wound. Further proof why I want nothing else to do with his work. I can usually separate artist from art and own lots of things from people I find offensive because the work itself is beautiful. But his work isn't beautiful. His work is about HIM and his one bitter relationship that he relives repeatedly in every pairing he writes. As has been noted, if there are only 9 people upset, why keep it up? Either he knows he's wrong but figures if he disclaims enough the power of his awesomeness will make it true, or he has no idea he's wrong but - like everything else he does - he has only one template from which to respond.

Dictating into an Ansaphone. Yeah, about as much care as he puts into all his writing. The sad part is, he's such a novelty that he may well do great in America. Even my brother-in-law was like: "It takes balls to kill off your characters!" But when I asked him how killing Owen, Tosh, Ianto and the entire set truly served the overall arc of TW, he couldn't provide an answer. And that's Hollywood in a nutshell. All gloss and first impressions. They'll eat RTD right up. But he'll eventually get spat out for the Next Big Thing. Just wait.

[stlscape.livejournal.com]

Wow. That's just...That's just...

::sigh:: I'm trying to keep to positives, so I'll charitably say I'm sure Rusty's doing the best he can with his limited skill set.

::goes off to find some Nebari bleach, because, ew.::

[lawsontl.livejournal.com]

One could certainly interpret it that way. It does seem that ever since Ianto's death was aired, RTD has been strangely intent on undermining Gareth. From not speaking his name at Comic Con (the actor who played him, etc...) to stuff like this.

And rather interesting to point out he didn't write Day 4. Because he'd have let it on air if he disagreed with it? Please.

[tencrush]

It's not even really "undermining" as such, it's this kind of weird demeaning dismissal of the guy, he seriously doesn't seem to have had a good word to say about him since CoE aired, and considering the way he gushes over his actors usually, even people he's killed off like Naoko and Burn, it just seems really petty and off.

Way to fuel those "Gareth wouldn't blow you so you killed him off" rumours there, Rusty. Not that those rumours exist, obviously. But if they did, you know. Way to make them ring true. Not that they do. Exist. Of course.

[tencrush]

bear baiting attention whore
LOL. I'm going to have to agree, I think he's doing a remarkable job of perpetuating the Ianto wank, which I seriously think would have died down about three months ago if it wasn't for Rusty's incessant baiting.

[siege-ofcahoots.livejournal.com]

I could be cynical and point out the fortuitous timing in that right about the time Fox commissions a treatment of TW, RTD can point to a riled fandom and say, "lookit - all these months later and they're still talking about it/me!"

But I'm not cynical. At all.

[neadods.livejournal.com]

And why does he keep feeling the need to bring this stuff up and fan the flames of something he himself claims is 9 people who are upset? If it's no big deal, why doesn't he shut up about it

In part, I think, because he's not used to being told his every word is a heartbreaking work of staggering genius... but mostly because he's gotten major amounts of flack and it hasn't stopped and he's getting defensive. It's just that it's the "the audience is defective for not loving me" instead of "This is the story I wanted to write" defensive.

[tencrush]

Nah. No way, man. Russell? He wouldn't do that.

Ahem.

[off_coloratura]

Oh, yuck. Tasteful, Russell. I know it's only SFX magazine, but still.

[tencrush]

Yeah, it's alright, it's only a magazine for people with special needs anyways. Blech.

[off_coloratura]

Yeah, it's not like they'll get it or anything.

I'm kind of wondering if he really was bothered by the fans' objection to Ianto's death, from the way he feels the need to keep harping on it and making fun of it.

[tencrush]

Well, yeah, that's my major question, too. He's perpetuating this wank just as much as the savecoffeeboy hysterical wimminz are. You'd think if he wanted it to die down, and he genuinely believed it was just a small minority, he's just ignore it, but instead HE keeps bringing it up. It just smells of butthurt, you'd think he'd have the capacity to be the bigger man, but obviously not. It's weird and childish.

[forgiveninasong.livejournal.com]

I also don't understand why RTD *STILL* finds it necessary to poke fun at part of his fanbase who were very upset about what happened. Regardless that he is making a crude joke about houseboys or whatever, it's just dowright mean. For those who know, it's just like what JK Rowling did with the whole Harry/Hermione fans being called "delusional" by her in an interview (well....sort of!)

[off_coloratura]

Yeah, and it's soured me on him more than his previous references... I mean, at least before when he commented on it he was being asked about it.

So very glad he's not working on Who anymore.

[venusinchains.livejournal.com]

"why does he keep feeling the need to poke this fannish shit? Let it lie already"

It does seem bitter, the unnecessary references to Ianto's death. And as much as he claims his right to hurt his own characters, the extra digging at 'hysterical women' in fandom is now looking like an effort to hurt people, a very juvenile effort.

(I don't doubt Gareth loled at it himself, but I wonder if RTD mentioned this to him beforehand. I would hope so, just because.)