"I think Jack will be in a S4, so I'll take that bet. And you're probably right about the limited emo. But... he's had a wife and a former wife die on him, and Estelle, and God knows how many other people. And it's arguable that Tosh and Owen's deaths were his fault since he recruited them. So I just don't get how he could bounce back from those and not from Ianto and Steven, after x period of time."
If it were just Ianto I'd agree for a number of reasons (although since they wanted us to suddenly believe that Ianto's death was a big enough reason to turn Jack into a grandchild killing shell of his former self then personally I'd like some indication that he didn't just get over it the minute the plot no longer required him for that role), but the Stephen thing. I can't see how he just 'gets over' that especially for someone who still felt guilty some 150 + years just for accidentally dropping his brother's hand. Not to mention the compounded effect it presumably had on his daughter unless they're going to suggest she's over it too or simply pretend she never really existed. So I would definitely expect some sort of ongoing fallout especially since they seem to want to be taken seriously these days.
I think I could handle the plotholes in the first two seasons because I never felt I was required to take any of it all that seriously. So a super secret organisation that was so secret it has to retcon its people when they leave, but apparently has one of the laziest vetting processes I've ever seen for an agency like this, that hires people off the street or because the man in charge fancies them held a perverse kind of goofy charm even if I did have to suspend my disbelief a bit too often, but Jack being buried for 2,000 years and suffering little to no ill-effects was definitely when the love began to die and then s3 with its sledge hammer approach to all things Jack sadly finished it off. Of course wholesale character killing in lieu of meaningful/ consistent character development didn't help either.
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If it were just Ianto I'd agree for a number of reasons (although since they wanted us to suddenly believe that Ianto's death was a big enough reason to turn Jack into a grandchild killing shell of his former self then personally I'd like some indication that he didn't just get over it the minute the plot no longer required him for that role), but the Stephen thing. I can't see how he just 'gets over' that especially for someone who still felt guilty some 150 + years just for accidentally dropping his brother's hand. Not to mention the compounded effect it presumably had on his daughter unless they're going to suggest she's over it too or simply pretend she never really existed. So I would definitely expect some sort of ongoing fallout especially since they seem to want to be taken seriously these days.
I think I could handle the plotholes in the first two seasons because I never felt I was required to take any of it all that seriously. So a super secret organisation that was so secret it has to retcon its people when they leave, but apparently has one of the laziest vetting processes I've ever seen for an agency like this, that hires people off the street or because the man in charge fancies them held a perverse kind of goofy charm even if I did have to suspend my disbelief a bit too often, but Jack being buried for 2,000 years and suffering little to no ill-effects was definitely when the love began to die and then s3 with its sledge hammer approach to all things Jack sadly finished it off. Of course wholesale character killing in lieu of meaningful/ consistent character development didn't help either.