The awesome Toshiko Sato

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A QUESTION FOR MY TORCHWOOD PALS REGARDING TOSH IN GREEKS BEARING GIFTS

[Poll #1439526]


The reason I ask is because I am reasonably familiar with old skool lesbian pulp fiction novels (umm... here, have a brief introduction), the gist of which is usually something along the lines of an innocent girl being Tempted Into Lesbian Experimentation by an Evil Lesbian, 100+ pages of reasonably tame sex ensue until finally the innocent girl is rescued from the Evils of Sapphic Desire by a Manly Man who Forgives her her Disgusting Aberration and maybe even decides to touch her down there if the thought of it doesn't gross him out him too much. The End. Anyway, that's what Greeks Bearing Gifts was to me, a lesbian pulp novel. And I wonder if one has to be familiar with the genre in order to see it that way, or if it struck more people just generally as kind of a squicky storyline. Feel free to comment and let me know.

Comments

[wolfy-writing.livejournal.com]

It definitely looks worse in retrospect. For one thing, at the time I assumed it wasn't going to be basically all Torchwood has to say about women being attracted to other women.

Rusty has issues with how he portrays queer people, including a tendency to not do that well with ones who are not gay men. He's not lesbian-friendly, he's not trans-friendly, and he's only intermittently any good at handling bisexuality.

[karaokegal.livejournal.com]

He's also not particularly mother friendly, at least based on the way he writes them for the companions.

The big question with Torchwood is exactly how much imput he had on the episodes he didn't write. Greeks was written by Toby Whithouse, who also wrote School Reunion for Dr. Who. I love that episode (Anthony Head!) but the whole bitch-fight aspect of the Rose/Sarah Jane relationship is less than pleasant to sit through.

[tencrush]

He's not particularly any-woman-older-than-late-twenties friendly full stop. (Except CoE, funnily enough, there all the women were suddenly made of win, every last one of them)

[wolfy-writing.livejournal.com]

There's a subset of Doctor/Rose shippers who keep writing, again and again, the scene where Convenient Magic Of Some Sort ensures that Rose will never grow old (and will either never die, or die exactly when the Doctor does). It fits far too well with the Rustyverse take on women and aging.

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Don't get me started on Donna's feminine wiles, that's the moment I really started taking Rusty's ageism personally.