Something's just occured to me: I remember hearing things along the lines of Gwen/Jack being the ship they were trying to sail during the early production, which RTD was more involved in. Then there was massive amounts of chemistry between Kai/Eve and Gareth/John, and the fans had largely rallied around Gwen/Rhys and Jack/Ianto, and so, while RTD was busy with Who and SJA, he sort of half-heartedly gave his approval for not!dead Rhys and the Jack/Ianto kiss at the end so that he could focus on other things. It's much easier to sell half-assed but fan-approved stuff than it is to sell three-quarters-assed and fan-disapproved stuff.
The thing is, I think he always thought Gwen/Jack would be better. And from what we see in CoE... Ianto acts exactly like Gwen would in a relationship with Jack. He asks for him to tell her things. He pushes for personal information. And then Jack acts like he did to Gwen at times in the first season: "you can't possibly understand, for I am full of man!pain (that is also immortal and sort of alien)". And then Ianto kept trying the same tactic over and over again, which was out of character for him, but perfectly in keeping with Gwen's.
And then RTD goes on about how Ianto is Jack's conscious- his moral center anyone- during the extras? I could never buy Gwen actually being the moral center, but I could buy Jack thinking she was, if only because her normal person fucked up shit was less impressive than everyone else big damn hero(ish) fucked up shit. My whole thing with Jack/Ianto is that we kept getting glimpses that they were fucked up in similar ways. They both had the tendancy to obsessively love people who were beyond their reach. They could lie out their asses and you couldn't tell whether they were covering up something big or just making conversation. You sort of got the impression that Ianto had, if not as many things to hide as Jack, then that you'd have to work harder to find them out (read: he'd make Jack work harder to figure them out).
And suddenly the relationship became completely uneven and a bit clingy, and I can't help but feeling that we got Gwack.
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I remember hearing things along the lines of Gwen/Jack being the ship they were trying to sail during the early production, which RTD was more involved in. Then there was massive amounts of chemistry between Kai/Eve and Gareth/John, and the fans had largely rallied around Gwen/Rhys and Jack/Ianto, and so, while RTD was busy with Who and SJA, he sort of half-heartedly gave his approval for not!dead Rhys and the Jack/Ianto kiss at the end so that he could focus on other things. It's much easier to sell half-assed but fan-approved stuff than it is to sell three-quarters-assed and fan-disapproved stuff.
The thing is, I think he always thought Gwen/Jack would be better. And from what we see in CoE... Ianto acts exactly like Gwen would in a relationship with Jack. He asks for him to tell her things. He pushes for personal information. And then Jack acts like he did to Gwen at times in the first season: "you can't possibly understand, for I am full of man!pain (that is also immortal and sort of alien)". And then Ianto kept trying the same tactic over and over again, which was out of character for him, but perfectly in keeping with Gwen's.
And then RTD goes on about how Ianto is Jack's conscious- his moral center anyone- during the extras? I could never buy Gwen actually being the moral center, but I could buy Jack thinking she was, if only because her normal person fucked up shit was less impressive than everyone else big damn hero(ish) fucked up shit. My whole thing with Jack/Ianto is that we kept getting glimpses that they were fucked up in similar ways. They both had the tendancy to obsessively love people who were beyond their reach. They could lie out their asses and you couldn't tell whether they were covering up something big or just making conversation. You sort of got the impression that Ianto had, if not as many things to hide as Jack, then that you'd have to work harder to find them out (read: he'd make Jack work harder to figure them out).
And suddenly the relationship became completely uneven and a bit clingy, and I can't help but feeling that we got Gwack.