Look, the thing is, I, like many others, am a cynical person. And I don't hate Gwen, and I don't think she interferes with Jack/Ianto (which I never really shipped anyway, I think Ianto could do better)
OH FINALLY. FINALLY. I've been saying that for so long and wanting someone else to agree. FINALLY.
Thinking back on CoE I'm coming to a realisation that I honestly am not that fond of CoE Ianto. I like some scenes....the start where Jack asks him if they should go with Rupesh but then all the second guessing about his sexuality......honestly, what happened to the Ianto who said I don't care? Who calmly propositioned Jack over THE BODY OF SUZIE? Wtf Torchwood? WTF.
I did love Canon!Ianto in s1. Except in Captain Jack Harkness, the whole 'Jack needs me' bit....made me cringe. The problem was that they'd make him phenomenal and then make him say something so remarkably cringe-worthy that I'd be screaming in my head. Yet I will say that overall I did love him in canon, probably because I shut my eyes and nah-nah-ed through the silly and Gareth managed to rescue the rest (I love that man so.)
I think fandom took the greatness, the quips, the smirks, the calm demeanour, the dealing with bodies, the clean ups, the coffee and wrote him the way he should have been written. The way he was written, in some rare moments.
Also I think Jack would have done to Stephen what he did anyway. He is Jack. The man gave 12 children away in 1956. Any love or lack thereof he had for Ianto would not stop him if his connection to his daughter didn't. Seriously, I am still annoyed by the for the sake of the story remarks. When you guys write a brilliant, flawless story? Than you can say that.
Dropping in....
OH FINALLY. FINALLY. I've been saying that for so long and wanting someone else to agree. FINALLY.
Thinking back on CoE I'm coming to a realisation that I honestly am not that fond of CoE Ianto. I like some scenes....the start where Jack asks him if they should go with Rupesh but then all the second guessing about his sexuality......honestly, what happened to the Ianto who said I don't care? Who calmly propositioned Jack over THE BODY OF SUZIE? Wtf Torchwood? WTF.
I did love Canon!Ianto in s1. Except in Captain Jack Harkness, the whole 'Jack needs me' bit....made me cringe. The problem was that they'd make him phenomenal and then make him say something so remarkably cringe-worthy that I'd be screaming in my head. Yet I will say that overall I did love him in canon, probably because I shut my eyes and nah-nah-ed through the silly and Gareth managed to rescue the rest (I love that man so.)
I think fandom took the greatness, the quips, the smirks, the calm demeanour, the dealing with bodies, the clean ups, the coffee and wrote him the way he should have been written. The way he was written, in some rare moments.
Also I think Jack would have done to Stephen what he did anyway. He is Jack. The man gave 12 children away in 1956. Any love or lack thereof he had for Ianto would not stop him if his connection to his daughter didn't. Seriously, I am still annoyed by the for the sake of the story remarks. When you guys write a brilliant, flawless story? Than you can say that.
*had calmed down but is furious again*