Oh, my sides...

[tencrush]

Just in case you think I may have stopped following Miracle Day fandom all together (Yo, this is what I'm calling that show now, it saves typing and, you know, it makes a lot more sense this way.) I TOTALLY HAVEN'T.

Dudes, the Jane Espenson Ep 7 Jack's timeline continuity fail and her subsequent apologetic clueless twittering is the most hilarious thing to happen to this fandom since Jack made his grandson bleed out of every orifice for the sake of srs drama.

Should I watch episode 7, guys? I take it not much has happened since episode 1, so I should be good to go, yeah?

Comments

[alba17.livejournal.com]

Well, I seem to be in the minority of loving the episode. DK about the Espenson controversy. I assume Jack had to have time travelled from some time in S1 or 2, er, some how.

[tencrush]

I'm glad you're loving it, really, I'm glad it's still making someone happy and still seems like Torchwood to some people. You have to admit, Jack's personality and personal situation on S1 and 2 does make it seem a bit unlikely that he popped out and time travelled somehow in between or during episodes. In S1 if he'd been able to time travel, he'd have gone to find the Doctor. In S2, well, at least I guess it would explain why him and Ianto's date never really happened, he blew that off to go have a passionate love affair in the 1920's that ended in betrayal and torture and then he came back and did some more sex with Ianto, but was obviously suddenly reluctant to commit to anything more than that. Jane Espenson now admits she fucked up the thing about the coat and Jack knowing he was a fixed point, and her solution is that this is an AU somehow? She probably should stop tweeting, she's turning into James Moran.

[wounded-melody.livejournal.com]

You would think that RTD or the editor (if they have one) would have caught this glaring mistake!

[tigercheetah.livejournal.com]

The idea that Jack went back in time and had a passionate love affair with Angelo 'after' forming his sort-of relationship with Ianto makes me feel a bit ill and would spoil the whole episode for me - especially if the Jack/Angelo relationship happened during series 2 rather than series 1, after Jack had asked Ianto for a date in KKBB and sort-of declared his feelings for him in To the Last Man. It wouldn't make any sense for the J/A thing to have happened during series 2....

Ianto apparently gets mentioned again in episode 8 of MD and I hope it's more of a proper mention than the one he got in episode 3.

[tencrush]

It would explain why that date never materialised. But no, it makes no sense.

[nobleroman1.livejournal.com]

Oh, god, now I'm concerned. I can see Angelo ranting and raving about Jack being w/ Ianto, and Jack defending himself by saying Ianto didn't mean as much to him as Angelo did. Sigh. Can't they leave Ianto anything? It hurts my Coffee Boy loving heart to say this, but I'm glad he's not around for this mess.

[radiant-pip.livejournal.com]

At this point, I wouldn't be surprised. All of the pre-MD talk about how there would be tons of Ianto mentions and that he would be remembered respectfully and so far most of what they've given us adds up to "Nnothing special to see here, get over it or move along, Ianto fans...but not until you've watched the entire season and we have your viewership numbers--ha!".

[as1mplegirl.livejournal.com]

The radio times says that Jack does some emo scene over lost lovers that 'even mentions his boyfriend/lackey, Ianto'. So wouldn't get your hopes up.

[tigercheetah.livejournal.com]

Yeah I saw that, Ianto gets a "namecheck" whilst Jack emos about lost loves, so much for Ianto getting "lots of mentions" as RTD put it.........

Oh well, fanfic gives me all the emo I could want in the Jack/Ianto relationship.

[coldwater1010.livejournal.com]

I think like a lot of things with this show you just have to go in with the mindset that it's not going to amount to much. That way you don't raise your hopes up just to have them dashed and if by some miracle it does end up being meaningful you can be pleasantly surprised for a change.

But since most, if not all the 'respectful mentions' have basically amounted to Jack getting jiggy with someone who mentions 'loving the coat' I'd probably err on the side of not expecting too much.

[radiant-pip.livejournal.com]

Great, another list Ianto gets to be in. Is it too much to ask for Jack to lament the loss (just a teeny bit) of the one lover we've watched for THREE SERIES?? Ugh. At this point, I wish there were NO Ianto mentions at all. So much for respecting Ianto...ha!