I'M WORKING ON IT...

[tencrush]

Just rewatching some episodes to get some inspiration re. Ianto and what I am now calling his alpha-in-training-ness. Wow. He is the weirdest character, dudes. He's never on screen, he's always physically reserved and he doesn't say much, but when he does he COMMANDS attention, it's way more blatant than I thought it would be.

But anyway, I'm getting a bit distracted, so I'll just post random things in the meantime.

Watch this scene from Day One again.
"None of you have partners?" says Gwen. And LOOK! Jack was totally going to say something and then he shuts his mouth and changes his mind.



He's so doing the teaboy already at this point in time.

Comments

[solitary-summer.livejournal.com]

Hm, you're probably right, someone who doesn't at least have some tendencies in this direction wouldn't have come up with that kind of plan to get into Torchwood in the first place, no matter how desperate he was. I don't think he uses it like Owen did though, who was not manipulative as such, but extremely perceptive about others' weaknesses and used them very consciously to strike where it'd hurt most.


I'm inclined to think that after a year (or however much time elapsed before CW) he couldn't really think straight, pun not intended, about anything any more, carrying this burden and responsibility for the whole time with no one to even talk about it...

[tencrush]

Yeah, in my head, it plays out like this: Ianto, consciously or subconsciously wishes he could unburden himself on Jack and that Jack will understand and help him, but he doesn't trust Jack enough to do so, while Jack, who suspects (as I have always done, even WELL before Fragments) that, coming from TW1, Ianto knows full well who the Doctor is, who that hand belongs to, probably who Jack is and possibly knows about his immortality, wishes, equally, that he could unburden some of his own manpain on Ianto and that Ianto will sympathise, but again, doesn't trust him enough to do so. They're both as stubborn and distrustful as each other and somehow that whole fucked up situation results in them having angsty bumsex with each other instead, as a kind of extreme sublimation mechanism. Which is part of the reason I don't really think they've ever been particularly vanilla, I find it easier to believe that their sex life probably veered towards the extreme end of the spectrum, because in my head both of them are subconsciously hoping the other will eventually break them down to the extent that it will all come out into the open. I don't ask these weirdy BDSM questions out of nowhere, I would seriously very easily buy that it was something that played (and possibly still plays) a part in their sex life.

[solitary-summer.livejournal.com]

Oh, I like that. I'll admit that my mind mostly tends to work in embarrassingly vanilla ways, so I never really think of that kind of stuff, but I could definitely see it going like this.


I'm not sure how much Ianto knows about Jack, which would depend on how much Jack and whatever he did in Cardiff after he took over was talked about in London and on how completely he wiped the traces of his TW Cardiff past, but I'm pretty sure that Ianto is the only one who knows where, or at least with whom Jack went when he left, especially if he talked to Gwen and she happened to mention the 'the right Doctor' thing. Not that this makes it any easier for him of course, because unlike Gwen, whom he doesn't even seem to see as a rival, this is someone he can't really compete with, or at least that's how it must look to him.

[nightspring.livejournal.com]

In Fragments, we are told that Ianto's flashback is "21 months earlier." Since I figure the events of S1 and S2 should take up at least a year to year and a half, I very much doubt Ianto was hiding Lisa in the basement for more than a few months. Half a year at most.